View Full Version : Does Ripbot retain TrueHD?
simbot41
1st January 2009, 15:39
Ok I want to retain TrueHD soundtrack, not downconvert it etc as I have all the goodies to do 1080P and TrueHD/DTSHD audio.
So does Ripbot retain TrueHD audio or simply convert to flac and then to AC3 DD?
If so what can I do to retain True HD audio and make a Ps3 compliant M2ts (with no file size limit as I can use tveristy to transfer)
~bT~
1st January 2009, 15:44
cudnt u use the existing thread?
Atak_Snajpera
1st January 2009, 15:46
Ps3 does not support TrueHD/DTSHD from single .m2ts file. If I recall correctly only ac3 is allowed.
simbot41
1st January 2009, 16:20
Hey BT, I did ask this question in the main thread 3 times. I understand forums and posts disappear qucikly and I dont like to bump threads
Atak cheers for the fast reply. Can it be done in the form of a mkv file with h264 encoding? Can it be then run through mkv2vob?
Can't find a way to retain TrueHD for ps3 playback :(
Atak_Snajpera
1st January 2009, 16:24
Question: Do you have receiver which is able to DECODE TrueHD/DTSHD stream ???? I doubt! If answer is no then you get only ac3 and core dts.
simbot41
1st January 2009, 17:21
Hi Atak
Actually Yes I do. Thats why I am trying to retain TrueHD.
Have a 46 inch 1080p saamsung and just watched The Dark Knight with its Imax scenes and TrueHD audio :)
Atak_Snajpera
1st January 2009, 17:24
Actually Yes I do
if may I ask what model do you have?
jamos
1st January 2009, 20:31
Ps3 does not support TrueHD/DTSHD from single .m2ts file. If I recall correctly only ac3 is allowed.
unless you burn the m2ts to a AVCHD disk then the PS3 will Support TrueHD/DTSHD but its not worth it since those files are massively big (around 3 gig.) and the max you can get on a DVD 9 is 9 gig. And from what I hear coming from the PS3 AC3 640bit audio sounds better than its decoded TrueHD. The PS3 is not great with audio.
And yes the PS3 can decode DTSHD and TrueHD and send a the decoded output via LPCM to any receiver that supports HDMI input, so the receiver does not need DTSHD or TrueHD decoders (in fact with a PS3 any receivers that have these decoders do not work as the PS3 will not send out raw DTSHD or TrueHD bitstream to them through the HDMI cable).
simbot41
2nd January 2009, 00:16
Hi Jamos thanks for the reply
Using Tversity you can actually transfer an entire file from your PC to Ps3. I have transferred an 18gb blu ray rip and got all audio soundtracks :)
So size isn't a concern, just a method of converting to a blu ray format that retains TrueHD. I understand Ps3 is not the best, but they can always keep uodating and tweaking firmware.
Atak as Jamos said, that is the bigget Joke of this generation of Amplifiers. A number if not all BluRay players can decode TrueHD/DTSHD natively, but not all can send the sound as LinerPCM. PS3 can therefore it can decode TrueHD and my amplifier is capable of acceptig Multi Channel LPCM. Ps3 cannot bitstream but it can do this.
Atak_Snajpera
2nd January 2009, 00:35
I cannot add TrueHD because tsmuxer has some major problems with this format.
jamos
2nd January 2009, 00:38
Hi Jamos thanks for the reply
Using Tversity you can actually transfer an entire file from your PC to Ps3. I have transferred an 18gb blu ray rip and got all audio soundtracks :)
So size isn't a concern, just a method of converting to a blu ray format that retains TrueHD. I understand Ps3 is not the best, but they can always keep uodating and tweaking firmware.
Atak as Jamos said, that is the bigget Joke of this generation of Amplifiers. A number if not all BluRay players can decode TrueHD/DTSHD natively, but not all can send the sound as LinerPCM. PS3 can therefore it can decode TrueHD and my amplifier is capable of acceptig Multi Channel LPCM. Ps3 cannot bitstream but it can do this.
No the PS3 currently will not play DTS, DTS-HD, or TrueHD using streaming. it only supports AC3.
You could create a BD structure with HD audio streams then use AVCHDMe (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143631) to create a working AVCHD structure on a external drive and then connect it to your PS3 via usb2.
simbot41
2nd January 2009, 02:44
Cheers Atak, figured as much, will use Ripbot for hd-dvd with only dd+
Jamos I am not actually streaming. Using tversity you can transfer a file larger than 4gb (fat32 compliant) from pc to your PS3 (it physically resides on ps3 hdd) Would HD audio concievably work then
Will look into your suggestion as well.
~bT~
2nd January 2009, 03:26
^ how does that work when the hdd is fat32?
simbot41
2nd January 2009, 03:44
When your PS3 has picked up the TVersity server, you can navigate to your file and then just select Copy.
Try it yourself. It works.
~bT~
2nd January 2009, 03:48
^ interesting..
On the Playstation 3, in addition to streaming media, you can also download media to the PS3 hard drive by selecting some file, invoking the options menu and choosing the “copy” operation. This can even be done on entire folders. As the copy is taking place, TVersity will automatically convert the media that would otherwise not play on the PS3.
http://tversity.com/support/quickstart/
simbot41
2nd January 2009, 06:28
still works fine. And trust me I am not the only one doing this. A numebr of mediaservers allow for the transferral of files larger than 4gb to the ps3. Can't get them off again, nor can you trasnfer from ps3 to anywhere else anything larger than 4gb.
I will rip my copy of Batman begins on blu ray and take some screenies for ya showing soundtrack and codec.
Cheers
simbot41
2nd January 2009, 08:37
OK movie ripped and so far 5.5 gb transferred in 10 minutes.
Ps3 identifies the file being trasnferred as a mpeg 1080P file.
Will add screenshots
~bT~
2nd January 2009, 13:28
still works fine. And trust me I am not the only one doing this. A numebr of mediaservers allow for the transferral of files larger than 4gb to the ps3. Can't get them off again, nor can you trasnfer from ps3 to anywhere else anything larger than 4gb.
I will rip my copy of Batman begins on blu ray and take some screenies for ya showing soundtrack and codec.
Cheers
so u have to format the hdd?
wakebrder
8th January 2009, 03:01
I cannot add TrueHD because tsmuxer has some major problems with this format.
But you could add an option to retain original DTS-HD & DTS Master Audio, correct?
BTW, I have a Denon AVR-2808CI in my living room, and an Onkyo TX-SR606 in the bedroom.
Are these receivers difficult to get in Ireland?
They are fast approaching < $300 in the US.;)
There might be more of a want for this feature than you think.:D
Thanks again for the excellent program!!
wakebrder
9th January 2009, 03:34
Bump!
wakebrder
10th January 2009, 09:38
Bump!
I guess no one really cares about HD audio.
If we can't have both, what's the point?
gabbett1
8th November 2016, 21:08
I too have recently been looking into this issue. I rip my movies to .mp4 format. Stored on my PC and streamed to a McIntosh receiver through my Sony 4k TV. I've typically used the AC3 format and when I look at my files it shows them to be ripped with 6 channel audio (5.1 I'm assuming). However, when I play the movies over my system, my McIntosh says it's playing in Pro Logic mode instead of Digital. Any advice on what I'm doing wrong would be greatly appreciated.
gabbett1
11th November 2016, 21:31
Update: I'm not sure what changed, but suddenly my stuff is playing in digital. I guess it wasn't how I was ripping them at least.
kuchikirukia
12th November 2016, 15:23
Doesn't the PS3 always output digital?
IMO keeping the TrueHD is pointless. Just save yourself 5Mbps of bloat by encoding AAC and let the PS3 decode and output LPCM.
Drinken
20th January 2017, 23:56
Because some people prefer listening to lossless audio and don't mind a bigger file? Same reason some people prefer storing their music in flac over mp3 or aac.
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