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Tirade
10th December 2008, 18:48
My entire DVD collection was done using AnyDVD and then DVDShrink to rip out everything except the main movie and the 5.1 track.
I'd like to do the same with my Blu-Ray's but atm what Ive been doing is just right having AnyDVDHD rip to ISO (with the options selected to remove brlive/protection/etc).
Is there a program like DVDShrink for Blu-Rays that will let me rip out everything except the movie and the audio track w/o having to dexmux/remux/transcode whatever, everything?
setarip_old
11th December 2008, 03:30
Hi!Is there a program like DVDShrink for Blu-Rays that will let me rip out everything except the movie and the audio track w/o having to dexmux/remux/transcode whatever, everything?If there is, it's the best kept secret on the entire Internet ;>}
On the other hand:
1) The author of DVD Shrink posted a few "interesting" questions here a couple of months ago, regarding a "new project"
2) The author of DVD95Copy appears to be making inroads regarding BluRay backup
Ábudos
11th December 2008, 03:43
It's not a very hard process for people that aren't extremely lazy.
Get AnyDVD HD (if you haven't already)
Then get eac3to and mkvmerge GUI
eac3to extracts the video stream from the bluray m2ts file and outputs a mkv file with video only, and it take the TrueHD/RAW/DTS-HD audio channel and converts it to AC3 in a separate file.
Then open mkvmerge and use it to combined both into on mkv file.
No encryption, no menus, original video, plays in almost all player.
Wombler
11th December 2008, 10:18
Hi!If there is, it's the best kept secret on the entire Internet ;>}
On the other hand:
1) The author of DVD Shrink posted a few "interesting" questions here a couple of months ago, regarding a "new project"
2) The author of DVD95Copy appears to be making inroads regarding BluRay backup
Jdobbs is also developing BD Rebuilder and there is extensive info on this in the DVD Rebuilder forum.
Wombler
Jay Bee
11th December 2008, 13:16
What's wrong with just playing the m2ts? Menus I'm guessing?
Edit: I think I can answer that myself now. The main movie is sometimes spread across several files with no obvious way tell the sequence. Sorry, still new to this.
ron spencer
11th December 2008, 15:48
use bdinfo to get info on what streams fit where.
You can do this quite easily, but it takes time:
For movie only:
1. Rip
2. Demux audio and video (and subs if want)
3. If the audio + video (+subs) fits on a standard BD-R, then remux with tsmuxer and you are done
4. If they do not fit, use x264 via avisynth and graphedit to reencode to fit.
5. mux audio and video
works well....but NOT one click LOL
Mike Chen
12th December 2008, 09:58
It's not a very hard process for people that aren't extremely lazy.
Get AnyDVD HD (if you haven't already)
Then get eac3to and mkvmerge GUI
eac3to extracts the video stream from the bluray m2ts file and outputs a mkv file with video only, and it take the TrueHD/RAW/DTS-HD audio channel and converts it to AC3 in a separate file.
Then open mkvmerge and use it to combined both into on mkv file.
No encryption, no menus, original video, plays in almost all player.
In addition tsMuxeR ( http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html ) can convert MKV into m2ts or blu-ray files ready for burning. Unfortunately it appears that it can't process MKV files with VC-1 video codec and any audio other than AC3/DTS.
Also, we recently released a new program called MakeMKV that can rip Blu-ray into into MKV directly without any additional tools. It was announced in another topic http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143361 .
Tirade
12th December 2008, 20:05
It's not a very hard process for people that aren't extremely lazy.
Get AnyDVD HD (if you haven't already)
Then get eac3to and mkvmerge GUI
eac3to extracts the video stream from the bluray m2ts file and outputs a mkv file with video only, and it take the TrueHD/RAW/DTS-HD audio channel and converts it to AC3 in a separate file.
Then open mkvmerge and use it to combined both into on mkv file.
No encryption, no menus, original video, plays in almost all player.
I'll give this a shot this weekend. Not the 1-click solution I hoped for (so that my son and/or wife can do this) but hopefully it reduces these 45gb ISO I have.
LoRd_MuldeR
12th December 2008, 21:56
The free DVDFab HD Decrypter (http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm) claims to come with "full HD-DVD and Blu-ray support (Removes AACS)" ;)
I can't test it, since I neither have a HD-DVD nor a Blu-ray drive. But I doubt it deals with the latest Blu-ray releases, especially when BD+ is involved.
However it might when AnyDVD is running in the background...
QuadcoreHD
13th December 2008, 00:56
There are no one-click solutions, but there are like 2-3 click solutions for this. I've tried explaining it to a few people who are familiar with AutoGK. They usually start rolling there eyes about 1/4 of the way through, but honestly its REALLY EASY! check out my sig for some info...i think it may be out of date, and I think eac3to might be easier, but hopefully it has some good info nonetheless :P
-Q
Wombler
13th December 2008, 17:48
I can't test it, since I neither have a HD-DVD nor a Blu-ray drive. But I doubt it deals with the latest Blu-ray releases, especially when BD+ is involved.
DVDFab can't cope with BD+ at present.
Fengtao added the limited Blu-ray functionality as an incomplete bonus feature pending further developments and as a result of continual requests.
Wombler
dat720
13th December 2008, 23:36
eac3to is definetly the way to go... it is the most consistent program for HD and BD sources (combined with AnyDVD that is), i'd like to see a bigger dev team tackle eac3to and turn it into a truely kick arse program!
Not that it already isn't kickarse!
Tirade
30th December 2008, 19:04
I tried messing around with eac3to and I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the command line options.
Here is what I've done and what I'm trying to do.
1. I've ripped the BR to my HD using AnyDVDHD
2. I want to rip out just the main movie (the highest quality, theatrical or extended version) and the best quality english audio track (I assume this is where eac3to comes in to play but I get an error after it runs for about 30min)
3. I want to merge the movie and audio files back together into a format that can be played on my PS3 and Media Extenders.
If I can get this 45gb rips down to under 10gb that would be nice. I realize I have a 4gb file size limitation with the PS3, but I can always split the end files up and do sequential playback.
Is there a step-by-step guide in plain english on how to do this?
smange05
30th December 2008, 20:59
This is actually what I am looking to do. I want to grab the movie stream along with the highest audio stream (TrueHD, DTS-MA) and leave both untouched in any way. Then use something to mux the 2 streams back together. TSMuxer is close but has issues with TrueHD. I would love to example of eac3to commands that will help accomplish the following:
AVC + TRUEHD OR DTS-MA
VC-1 + TRUEHD OR DTS-MA
I don't mind the final container so mkvmerge would work for me...its just the demuxing commands that have me confused.
Or is it just easiest to say anything TrueHD use TsRemuxer and anything DTS-MA TSMuxer?
Awax
30th December 2008, 23:24
I have used the following method to get the raw video and audio from a bluray disc (movie only):
First, make sure you have the latest version of TSmuxer & AnyDVD.
1) Put disc in drive with AnyDVD running in the background.
Do not rip the disc to the HD, this is not necessary!!!
2) Open TSmuxer and find the stream that contains the movie only.
If the movie is split into several parts, open the correct "playlist" file.
3) Uncheck all the parts of the movie you don't want (alternate audio, subs, etc)
4) Highlight the audio if it is TrueHD or DTSHD and then check the box that will downmix the audio to standard (if you don't want HD audio)
5) Demux to a folder.
From there, you can do what you will with the files.:)
atreides93
31st December 2008, 07:37
10 gigs is too much.....I get most bluray titles down to 7 or 8 gigs. Dark Knight was re-encoded to 8 gigs and it looks beautiful on a 52" 1080p LCD.
I mostly use TSmuxer, MeGui....oh and BDEdit if I am not sure of the order of the m2ts files if they movie is broken up into multiple files. Strangely enough, I haven't run into that in a while.
Atak_Snajpera
31st December 2008, 13:35
I mostly use TSmuxer, MeGui....oh and BDEdit if I am not sure of the order of the m2ts files if they movie is broken up into multiple files. Strangely enough, I haven't run into that in a while.
Wouldn't be simpler to just use RipBot (uses eac3to. This tool is awesome! It joins all .m2ts automatically!) . TSmuxer is not recommended at the moment because it does not fix audio gaps in audio stream. It is very important to maintain a/v synch.
Tirade
31st December 2008, 19:52
I have used the following method to get the raw video and audio from a bluray disc (movie only):
First, make sure you have the latest version of TSmuxer & AnyDVD.
1) Put disc in drive with AnyDVD running in the background.
Do not rip the disc to the HD, this is not necessary!!!
2) Open TSmuxer and find the stream that contains the movie only.
If the movie is split into several parts, open the correct "playlist" file.
3) Uncheck all the parts of the movie you don't want (alternate audio, subs, etc)
4) Highlight the audio if it is TrueHD or DTSHD and then check the box that will downmix the audio to standard (if you don't want HD audio)
5) Demux to a folder.
From there, you can do what you will with the files.:)
I tried this method and other than being uncertain if Im selecting the right playlist or stream file I think its working.
I ended up with a .264 and .ac3 file which I then muxed to .ts or .m2ts and it played just fine on my PC.
What I would like to do is take those 2 files (the .264 and .ac3) and mux them into a .mp4 that will play on my PS3. Id like to do this w/o altering the video at all and only changing the audio to AAC as I assume I need to if I want .mp4 files.
Any idea?
nurbs
31st December 2008, 20:53
You can use mp4box to mux the .264 and the .ac3 into a .mp4, but the PS3 doesn't support ac3 in mp4. Ac3 in mp4 was only recently standardised IIRC so maybe they'll ad it in a software update. Maybe the'll support divx7 in the future then you could mux to mkv, but currently what you want is not doable in an mp4 container. You'll have to use m2ts or vob.
Tirade
31st December 2008, 21:30
TSmuxer allows me to remux to .m2ts
Can I do this and split the files into 8GB .m2ts files and have them play on the PS3?
Muchacho
1st January 2009, 21:02
Wouldn't be simpler to just use RipBot (uses eac3to. This tool is awesome! It joins all .m2ts automatically!) . TSmuxer is not recommended at the moment because it does not fix audio gaps in audio stream. It is very important to maintain a/v synch.
Would RipBot be able to just re-mux the desired tracks into a mkv file without transcoding the video?
Atak_Snajpera
1st January 2009, 22:42
Would RipBot be able to just re-mux the desired tracks into a mkv file without transcoding the video?
If you don't want transcoding then you should use eac3to to extract tracks. Once you have video (.mkv) and audio (.ac3 , .dts ... ) then you can easly mux them using MKVtoolnix (mmg.exe)
Tirade
2nd January 2009, 17:09
I was able to extract out the .264 and the .AC3 of a few of my movies and then remux them into a .m2ts file that I renamed .mpg and it played just fine on my PS3.
I'm having 2 issues though...
1. Any movie that has DTS or DTS-HD, doesnt give me the option to downconvert to AC3 like the other blu-rays do (the one with True-HD for example). I select the option to downgrade DTS-HD to DTS but when playing back the end file its very very stuttery, like 2FPS. Any idea?
2. I don't have REW/FF capability with these .m2ts files. Is this an inherent consequence of this container?
gonwk
5th January 2009, 05:47
use bdinfo to get info on what streams fit where.
You can do this quite easily, but it takes time:
For movie only:
1. Rip
2. Demux audio and video (and subs if want)
3. If the audio + video (+subs) fits on a standard BD-R, then remux with tsmuxer and you are done
4. If they do not fit, use x264 via avisynth and graphedit to reencode to fit.
5. mux audio and video
works well....but NOT one click LOL
Hi Ron S,
Can you expand on your Step 4, please ... dummy guide!
Thanks,
G!:)
bourke
12th January 2009, 02:58
Hi!If there is, it's the best kept secret on the entire Internet ;>}
On the other hand:
1) The author of DVD Shrink posted a few "interesting" questions here a couple of months ago, regarding a "new project"
2) The author of DVD95Copy appears to be making inroads regarding BluRay backup
I thought everyone uses Blu-ray to DVD Pro:
http://www.dvd-cloner.com/blu-ray-to-dvd/
That's pretty much a 1-click process (obviously assuming you have AnyDVD installed)?
dat720
12th January 2009, 22:51
You know it doesn't compress right? which is kind of the theme of the original post.....
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