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bigdog660
21st November 2008, 05:43
I have tried:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll") # 1.5.0
mpeg2source("VTS_01_1.d2v")
Telecide()
Decimate()

and

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll") # 1.5.0
mpeg2source("VTS_01_1.d2v")
TFM()
TDecimate(Mode=1)

but the results are jerky when played. Any suggestions?

Here is a sample: http://www.sendspace.com/file/445h8n

Thanks in advance for any help.

thetoof
21st November 2008, 06:53
There is motion on every frame. This is 30p encoded as 30i. You don't need any IVTC nor deinterlacing.

Comatose
21st November 2008, 09:41
I would stick TFM in there just in case. It should skip the progressive frames and I've seen sources which were mostly 30p but with a little bit of 24t thrown in here and there.

bigdog660
21st November 2008, 09:41
There is motion on every frame. This is 30p encoded as 30i. You don't need any IVTC nor deinterlacing.

So the only way to get progressive fields would be to bob and weave, correct?

I'm trying to get rid of the combing seen here:

http://www.etnwx.com/images/shania.jpg

TIA

Comatose
21st November 2008, 09:46
Nonono :3 Truly interlaced content means the two fields don't match temporally, right?
Well, in this case, they do. In weird-simplified-Avisynth-terms, this would be the equivalent of doing SeparateFields(), encoding the two fields separately (without pulldown or anything like that), then doing Weave() in your player.

Or in short, just load it and continue working with the assumption you have a progressive source.

Leak
21st November 2008, 14:14
I can't download your video (the $%*#@! site says all free servers are full), but if it's phase-shifted 30p (which, while being progressive, looks combed on every frame) a simple

Telecide()

should reconstruct the original frames.

If it's indeed 60i (which can easily be seen if you do a Separatefields() and there's motion in every resulting frame) you do need to deinterlace.

thetoof
23rd November 2008, 19:50
A sample of a section where we could actually see some combing would be good, since the first you posted is simply progressive.

Guest
23rd November 2008, 23:07
A sample of a section where we could actually see some combing would be good, since the first you posted is simply progressive. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It doesn't match the screenshot above either.

plonk420
24th November 2008, 08:52
http://plonkmedia.us/VTS_01_1.vob

bigdog660
24th November 2008, 11:25
Sorry for the bad sample. I've uploaded new clip of the DVD at http://www.sendspace.com/file/rfje1l that actually shows part of the concert. I hope this helps.

Guest
24th November 2008, 14:40
It's interlaced so you can't do IVTC.

thetoof
24th November 2008, 15:18
What is your target format?

plonk420
24th November 2008, 20:52
http://plonkmedia.us/06_VTS_01_1.vob

bigdog660
24th November 2008, 21:37
What is your target format?

AVC in a Matroska container. My target FPS is 23.97fps if possible.

From what I've read, I'm going to have to do a bob since it appears to be interlaced, it looks like I'm stuck with 29.97fps or 59.97 if I do a bob and weave, correct?

I like to avoid 59.97fps to maintain hardware compatibility.

thetoof
25th November 2008, 19:11
23.976 is not possible for interlaced content, unless you do a framerate conversion (not recommended) or introduce jerks by removing frames...

If your target display is progressive (most likely since you're going AVC+MKV), you should bob your video (tempgaussmc_beta1 is a very good option). If you absolutely don't want 59.94, cut your temporal resolution by half with selecteven() or selectodd().

If your target display had been interlaced (like a DVD encode for SDTV), the workflow would have been bob-filter-reinterlace.