BDMV Debugger Congratulations (split from BD+ handling thread)

[arnezami]

Just wanted to congratulate all you guys and especially Oopho2ei :)

I know how hard it can be and this is great work!

[Oopho2ei]

Thanks. Over 1300 guests are currently viewing this forum. I better make a backup of our repository... :rolleyes:

I would like to stress again that this project wasn't intended to circumvent copy protection and promote piracy. This can already be done using commercial software like AnyDVD-HD. Instead this project was an attempt to enable users of open source operating systems (like linux) to playback their BD+ protected discs without having to use proprietary software. Furthermore only two movies "I Robot" and "The Day After Tomorrow" have been proven to be handled correctly so far. Obviously there is still a lot of debugging to be done.

Thanks to all the people who have contributed. :thanks:

[Blue_MiSfit]

Grats guys!!!

~MiSfit

[NSI]

Just finished reading these 17 pages. Great story, had me on the edge of my seat waiting to see what happened next. Hollywood should be worried. :p

I especially liked the foreshadowing by Slysoft in the beginning. I can't help but think that if the BD+ code wasn't so paranoid about checking the VM, and instead just built the table and was done with it, this project would have been a lot more difficult. Plus, there would have been more avenues to defeat unlicensed players in the future. Doesn't really matter because as everyone here knows DRM is defective by design.

Great work everyone!

[MoFoQ]

congrats indeed.

I'll drink to it and future success (and irony).

[scubascythan]

Congratz. You've been slashed (http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/11/01/1728222.shtml).

[Inventive Software]

Nice going people! Congratulations on an outstanding effort! Open-source too! :D

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Heise.de has just released a news article about your success :cool:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Foren-Mitglieder-knacken-erweiterten-Blu-ray-Kopierschutz-BD--/meldung/118285

[Oopho2ei]

Heise.de has just released a news article about your success :cool:
I honestly can't understand why this project is getting so much attention. There are commercial tools like AnyDVD-HD which can do much better and are easier to use. Furthermore without the help of dozens of other people (who would like to stay anonymous) this project would haven't succeeded. We didn't get any help from SlySoft and the code doesn't run on a java virtual machine. It runs on an emulator implemented in java. The author who wrote the article seems to have no idea or i didn't translate it correctly. Also they seem to have missed to cover the latest leak of MKBv4 and MKBv7 processing keys. The current development is not believable.

@Oopho2ei: the jar file is so large because it contains the bouncycastle lib.. it's packed into the jar file. Something must've gone wrong during the build mechanism. And if you distribute the lib with the software you might want to build so that the lib in the dist directory is automatically taken into account (like Netbeans does).
Thanks. I have rewritten the build.xml (according to the one used in JonDos Public Repository) and it seems to work now. I am currently doing some source code improvements.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

I honestly can't understand why this project is getting so much attention.

...because the industry put so much efforts into making BD+ "unbreakbale" and now your little Projects proves how vulnerable it is :)

Even HD-DVD had to die, because BR was believed to be "safer" thanks to BD+ protection. So a lot of money and prestige is involved here!

[Oopho2ei]

...because the industry put so much efforts into making BD+ "unbreakbale" and now your little Projects proves how vulnerable it is

I can't agree. We probably had twice as many people working on this than Slysoft when they "broke" BD+. Furthermore it doesn't say anything about the security of BD+ instead it shows how weak the protection of current BD+ capable players is. I would like to name the latest leak of the MKBv4 and MKBv7 processing keys again at this point. I believe it is impossible to create a secure DRM system if an opponent has the ability to mount a whitebox attack on a working (licensed) player. Let me add that i compared two versions of my player firmware and the latest version was without any doubt weaker compared with the one released a couple of months earlier. .oO(The Matrix has you...)Oo.

Even HD-DVD had to die, because BR was believed to be "safer" thanks to BD+ protection. So a lot of money and prestige is involved here!
As above. Finally decrypting and repairing a BD+/AACS protected discs happens on daily bases with AnyDVD-HD.

Edit: We shouldn't spam the thread with this. Nobody can convince me anyway. This thread is probably very valuable as it shows an attack scenario which has to be prevented in the future if DRM wants to succeed over BlueRay content.

[Doom9]

In order not to spam the very technical thread I've created this separate thread and will move o/t posts from the technical thread here.

[Adub]

Well then Congratulations!! I had no idea that this project was even going on (I rarely visit the decryption section) and here I wake up to find that the open source community has done it again! Well done mate, well done.

[sl1pkn07]

thanks!!!

OWNED slysoft!!!! :devil:

[Orion17]

Congrats Guys. I watched this post since you guys first started this project and it was very interesting to see the steps taken to get the end result. Your work is much appreciated.

:thanks:

[Oopho2ei]

Due to the unexpected widespread media attention i am concerned about my personal safety. I think you guys can now continue this project without me. I won't use this account anymore and i have other things to do now anyway. Maybe i will join later again with a different nickname but i doubt it.

Good luck and keep up the good work. :)

[dirio49]

You will me missed.
Thanks for you contributions. :)

[sl1pkn07]

thanks for al

[microchip8]

A big thanks for me too, especially for not forgetting the Linux folks ;)

[patul]

@Oopho2ei, Schluppo:
Thanks for your hard work.. You guys will be missed. Hope to see you around in this forum again very soon..

[dirio49]

I think Schluppo is still around, unless I am mistaken. :)

[Peer van Heuen]

I honestly can't understand why this project is getting so much attention.

Well, nice work, anyway :)

[loric]

I honestly can't understand why this project is getting so much attention.


Because it's a great achievement :)

Someone spent a lot of money and resources to code the unbreakable protection, and someone else spent large sums of money to get a license to use such unbreakable protection, but you broke it.

This unbreakable protection, as anyone knows, is not effective in preventing piracy, it's never been. On the other hand it affects users heavily. This is why people hate it and this is why people are giving this project much attention.

So, congrats, they are well deserved.

[patul]

I think Schluppo is still around, unless I am mistaken. :)

Yeah, stupid me :rolleyes: I just thought he would do the same thing...

[RNiK]

Congratulation and... good luck! :p

[loric]

Yeah, stupid me :rolleyes: I just thought he would do the same thing...

Now I am confused. What has happened to them?

[TomZ]

Furthermore only two movies "I Robot" and "The Day After Tomorrow" have been proven to be handled correctly so far...

You can add Die Hard 4, french version to the list !
I've just watched it yesterday evening with my video-projector (PCHC, linux, mplayer). It was a great pleasure and was possible thanks to your incredible work.

Thanks a lot.

'Z

[loo3aem3ON]

Now I am confused. What has happened to them?
Nothing has happened to them. The repository hasn't been taken down either. These kinds of attacks were always anticipated. You should checkout posting #16 (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1209344&postcount=16). These guys don't make a living out of this like slysoft so obviously they also have other things to do.