Studdering is driving me CRAZY!

[adam1972]

I've started picking up Blu-Ray ripping or so I thought... There are some movies that are coming out with a studdering slo-motion effect no matter what I do! The latest is Gone in 60 seconds. I rip using anydvd HD and demux using eac3to. I use the standard eac3to filename.mt2s 2: filename.mkv 3: filename.ac3 -libav. If it has pulldown I add that option, I then use mkvmerge to multiplex. I just did "Transformers" HDDVD and it has pulldown... I did one with pulldown and one without.. the framerate shows 29fps on one with pulldown and 23.976 without pulldown.. When I encode I get this slow motion stuttry effect on both!! and on these other certain movies (others come out fine).... And it's before the re-encode happens as well.. I'll open the MKV and I get the stutter slo mo effect. It's happened on Independance Day BluRay, Fantastic 4 BluRay, STEALTH BluRay.... Someone PLEASE Help! These are a LOT of hours of encoding (Normally to DivX using Dr.DivX High Def @ 4500kb w/ AC3 audio) only to get this crappy effect! :thanks:

P.S I have the latest EAC3to, Combined Community Codec Pack, Mkvtoolnix, AC3 filter, Haali Media Splitter, ffdshow

[setarip_old]

Hi!

Perhaps a coincidence, but you seem to have this problem with high action movies. Perhaps your system isn't adequate to handle the high bitrate...

[CWR03]

You may also be blending fields. Upload a small sample of a finished video.

[adam1972]

It does look like I'm blending fields... But the source is Progressive and I've told nothing to de-interlace!.... My framerate is at the same 23.976 that the original. My pc is an Athlon 64X2 2ghz and 2Gig Ram.... I can play the BluRays just fine... And the WHOLE movie plays studdery after demuxing with eac3to not just the action scenes..... AAAAAACK! :mad:

[Blue_MiSfit]

When you say you can play the BluRays just fine - I assume you mean through BluRay playback software. This isn't the same as watching demuxed video tracks through a DirectShow player like Media Player Classic. Hardware acceleration may be helping you in the case of a BluRay disc, and not helping you in the case of Media Player Classic.

How exactly are you playing the demuxed stream? Player and all DirectShow filters involved, please.

~MiSfit

[laserfan]

I'll open the MKV and I get the stutter slo mo effect. It's happened on Independance Day BluRay, Fantastic 4 BluRay, STEALTH BluRay.... Someone PLEASE Help! These are a LOT of hours of encoding ...And the reason you've failed "backing-up" so very many discs, instead of working with ONE until you figure out how to do it, and then backing-up the others, is ....what?

[adam1972]

Not failed on all really except for the studdering. Not all have failed.. Corpse Bride, Surf's Up, Resident Evil Extinction, Ant Bully, Alvin and the Chipmunks, 300, Happy Feet, Resident Evil Apocalypse work 100% and then there's Stealth, Independance Day, Both Fantastic 4 Movies, Transformers, Gone in 60 Seconds that studder. but to keep wasting hours on one file, I just go to a different one and see if that one works. I've even re-ripped the studdery ones with the same result... I've been trying to find the differences in the videos but it all just doesn't mesh... Only a couple of the movies have had pulldown.. the rest are progressive @ 23.97 fps (the HD version since I notice they're sticking in lower res ones in too) with AC3 audio.. I rip and mux them with eac3to into a MKV (some with 2 audio files.. English and Spanish)... then re-encode the file DrDivX at 3800-4000 kbps in HiDef max evrything using 1:1 ratio (a couple done with "Automatic" setting). I stream these to my XBox 360 without re-encoding. The slow-mo effect is obvious and annoying.. It happens on both the XBox and the PC. I just can't see how some files play back fine while others studder like that when they are at the same bit rate/size?!?!

Would audio cause this problem? I mean the re-encoding DTS-HD or E-AC3 for example; into an AC3.. Or the muxing process of the audio file with the video??

Here' some info on 2 files.. One that's good and one that studders....
Works:
General
Complete name : D:\Flicks\Movies\Adventure\Troy - The Director's Cut.divx
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile : OpenDML
File size : 6.96 GiB
Duration : 3h 16mn
Overall bit rate : 5 086 Kbps
Writing application : AVI-Mux GUI 1.17.7, Aug 8 2006 20:59:17

Video
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Codec ID : DX50
Codec ID/Hint : DivX 5
Duration : 3h 16mn
Bit rate : 3 798 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 592 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.2
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.209
Stream size : 5.20 GiB (75%)
Writing library : DivX 6.8.2 (UTC 2008-05-15)

Audio #1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : 2000
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 897 MiB (13%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 64 ms (1.53 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration : 192 ms
Title : english

Audio #2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : 2000
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 897 MiB (13%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 64 ms (1.53 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration : 192 ms
Title : spanish




Studders:
Complete name : D:\Flicks\Movies\Action\Windtalkers.divx
Format : DivX
Format/Info : Hack of AVI
Format profile : OpenDML
File size : 4.60 GiB
Duration : 2h 14mn
Overall bit rate : 4 904 Kbps

Video
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Codec ID : DX50
Codec ID/Hint : DivX 5
Duration : 2h 14mn
Bit rate : 3 278 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.148
Stream size : 3.08 GiB (67%)
Title : Main
Writing library : DivX 2676

Audio #1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : 2000
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 545 MiB (12%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 500 ms
Title : Audio

Audio #2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : 2000
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 382 MiB (8%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 500 ms
Title : Audio

[CWR03]

Format/Info : Hack of AVI
What is that? It's the only significant difference I see.

Again, upload a small sample of a problematic finished video - you might also include the same portion from the source.

[adam1972]

I have no clue.. I always use dr divx to encode, and I purchased divx pro a while ago... I believe I just used a different program to mux the avi and ac3.. Before I used eac3to to rip to mkv and convert to ac3 audio. Nonetheless that's the only one that has that.. Even from the working ones. What's the best way to upload a sample.. Especially with the size of the movie?

By the way, I want sincerely thank you all for even responding to my post.. Thank you.

[CWR03]

I haven't used badongo.com in a while, but it used to be pretty good and didn't have download limitations.