Trying to make DVD from hard drive

[Margo_Mom]

Hello,
Long-time, very quiet member. Real newbie.

Hope I am giving necessary info - if not - sorry.

-Bought 'Ford at Fox' box set.
-Used DVD decrypter to copy all the DVD's to my hard drive - no problems
-Used NeroStartSmart to make DVD's from my hard drive - no problems EXCEPT 'Grapes of Wrath' Ruined 2 Dual layer blanks trying both speeds.

Tried to use DVD Fab to do a trial burn to another location on hard drive. Wouldn't even let me 'start'.
Then I thought I would use VobBlanker to split main movie and Director's Commented version so I could burn to DVD 5's
-told me there was at least 1 ILV(I think that is for InstantVision Ltd) cell and the vts's can be processed, but the PGC's will have problems.

Help please. I have spent about 3 hours reading and I don't understand.

Thanks!

[dat720]

Try using DVD Shrink on the DVD Folder, but don't shrink it just create a ISO.

[setarip_old]

@Margo_Mom

Hi!

There have been many posts at this and other forums indicating that NERO is unreliable for burning to D/L media.

Instead, try using (freeware) IMGBurn for this task...

BTW - You might want to use Verbatim D/L DVD+R media for the task

[Margo_Mom]

Try using DVD Shrink on the DVD Folder, but don't shrink it just create a ISO.

I have DVD Shrink and I have heard of ISO's. I thought they were computer files only. I didn't know DVD players could play them.

Thank you. I will try this.

[Margo_Mom]

@Margo_Mom

Hi!

There have been many posts at this and other forums indicating that NERO is unreliable for burning to D/L media.

Instead, try using (freeware) IMGBurn for this task...

BTW - You might want to use Verbatim D/L DVD+R media for the task


Like many people I know, I find the more technical computer stuff confusing and a bit scary. So I guess I only come here when I have a problem. That must be why I haven't seen the messages about Nero and its D/L unreliability.

I will try to find IMGBurn and use that.

Darn :( When you mentioned Verbatim media, I thought I had found a use for some I bought last year that didn't seem to work on my burner, but they are Verbatim DL DVD-R -- Oh well!

Thank you very much.

[dat720]

In it's basic form a ISO file is simply a exact 'Image' of a disc, weather it be data audio or video, it doesnt matter, think of an ISO file as a Zip file, it contains the contents of the disc in 1 file rather than many files.

When you create an ISO you have 1 file that most burning software should be able to use to create a CD.

If you let DVD Shrink create a ISO file then there shouldn't be any misstakes when burning a disc as burning the program recreates the structure inside the ISO on the disc.

I'm with setarip_old ImgBurn i feel is bar none the best burning application around, i've been using it for years and it has never made any coasters.

[Margo_Mom]

In it's basic form a ISO file is simply a exact 'Image' of a disc, weather it be data audio or video, it doesnt matter, think of an ISO file as a Zip file, it contains the contents of the disc in 1 file rather than many files.

When you create an ISO you have 1 file that most burning software should be able to use to create a CD.

If you let DVD Shrink create a ISO file then there shouldn't be any misstakes when burning a disc as burning the program recreates the structure inside the ISO on the disc.

I'm with setarip_old ImgBurn i feel is bar none the best burning application around, i've been using it for years and it has never made any coasters.

Thank you Dat,
You have given me a very clear explanation.

On my first attempt I couldn't see an option for creating an ISO which surprised me because I thought I had seen that in the past. I explored a bit, but ran out of time.

In the meantime I had found, dl'd, and installed IMGBurn. Couldn't figure that out either! LOL (I did admit that I really am not good at this, but I DO want to learn; so I will be spending a couple of hours tonight - Thursday - exploring the software and searching for some of the great help/guides/manuals offered here)

Really appreciate it when you more knowledgeable people take the time to try to help a newbie - I know I still have to do the work myself, but getting guidance sure makes it less scary!

Thanks again.

[dat720]

On my first attempt I couldn't see an option for creating an ISO which surprised me because I thought I had seen that in the past. I explored a bit, but ran out of time.

After you click the 'Backup' button, a dialog will pop up, in this dialog the drop down menu titled 'Select Backup Target' contains teh ISO option.

In the meantime I had found, dl'd, and installed IMGBurn. Couldn't figure that out either!

Once you have created a ISO with DVD Shrink you simply open ImgBurn click the option titled 'Write Image File to Disc' or from the mode menu select 'Write', choose your source file (the ISO that DVD Shrink created) put in a blank disk of appropriate size, ImgBurn will tell you in teh info box on the right the smallest disc that can be used, ie if it says DVD-R or DVD+R that is a single layer disc, and if it says DVD-R DL then that is obviously a Dual Layer disc, then click teh burn button.

[Margo_Mom]

After you click the 'Backup' button, a dialog will pop up, in this dialog the drop down menu titled 'Select Backup Target' contains teh ISO option.



Once you have created a ISO with DVD Shrink you simply open ImgBurn click the option titled 'Write Image File to Disc' or from the mode menu select 'Write', choose your source file (the ISO that DVD Shrink created) put in a blank disk of appropriate size, ImgBurn will tell you in teh info box on the right the smallest disc that can be used, ie if it says DVD-R or DVD+R that is a single layer disc, and if it says DVD-R DL then that is obviously a Dual Layer disc, then click teh burn button.

Thank you again,

My DVD Shrink is 3.1 - is that a different version? Your instructions were very clear and I followed them, but I didn't see anything with ISO. The dialogue box that popped-up when I clicked on Backup had 4 tabs:Target Device, DVD Region, Backup Options, Burn Settings

Target Device seemed like the best choice. It had two options: Burn with Nero to the following device & Select folder for temporary files.

The following device choice had 3 options 1)My burner 2)Image recorder 3)Hard disk folder

I tried each of these in turn but couldn't find ISO. When I used Image recorder (whatever that is) It let me choose a file extension or .nrg on Burn settings tab. No ISO.

My DVD Shrink help doesn't seem to work, so I'll have to come here or somewhere to find documentation unless you check in the meantime and can help me.

Thanks again!

[CWR03]

In DVD Shrink 3.2 (Perhaps you need to update DVD Shrink):

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2267/shrinkisomenuoz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[dat720]

Yeah... exactly what CWR03 said...

I just assumed you had the latest version, seens it is like 5 years old and all!

ISO's are your friend, get to know them, they are extremly handy.

[Margo_Mom]

In DVD Shrink 3.2 (Perhaps you need to update DVD Shrink):

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2267/shrinkisomenuoz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Again I am expressing my appreciation!

Thank you :)

[Margo_Mom]

Yeah... exactly what CWR03 said...

I just assumed you had the latest version, seens it is like 5 years old and all!

ISO's are your friend, get to know them, they are extremly handy.

A very reasonable assumption. I guess it is 'My Bad'.

Didn't know there was a newer one. (But I admit I didn't check!)

Thanks for checking the thread again.

[Margo_Mom]

After you click the 'Backup' button, a dialog will pop up, in this dialog the drop down menu titled 'Select Backup Target' contains teh ISO option.



Once you have created a ISO with DVD Shrink you simply open ImgBurn click the option titled 'Write Image File to Disc' or from the mode menu select 'Write', choose your source file (the ISO that DVD Shrink created) put in a blank disk of appropriate size, ImgBurn will tell you in teh info box on the right the smallest disc that can be used, ie if it says DVD-R or DVD+R that is a single layer disc, and if it says DVD-R DL then that is obviously a Dual Layer disc, then click teh burn button.

Thank you - worked like a charm after I found how to get 3.2. The DVDShrink site seems to be oriented toward Shrink 2008. I also did reading about ISO's and ImgBurn - so I have now learned a bunch of stuff which I enjoy (Only 1000 x more to get up to you guys! LOL)

Thanks again.

[Margo_Mom]

@Margo_Mom

Hi!

There have been many posts at this and other forums indicating that NERO is unreliable for burning to D/L media.

Instead, try using (freeware) IMGBurn for this task...

BTW - You might want to use Verbatim D/L DVD+R media for the task


Wanted to thank you for your suggestion about ImgBurn. When I found out how to upgrade my DVDShrink to 3.2 (as was suggested here!), did some reading where I learned some more stuff (good), created the ISO, then read and experimented with ImgBurn (another good), then it worked great!

Thanks again.

PS - I spent a couple of hours searching for info about the differences between -R and +R but I couldn't find anything here on Doom. Do you know if there is? (All my stuff is -R because the +R that I tried before (at least 3 years ago now) didn't work - but you had suggested +R; so I would like to re-learn about that.

[setarip_old]

Thanks again.As always, my pleasure.

PS - I spent a couple of hours searching for info about the differences between -R and +R but I couldn't find anything here on Doom. Do you know if there is? (All my stuff is -R because the +R that I tried before (at least 3 years ago now) didn't work - but you had suggested +R...[/Quote]Please re-read carefully - My suggestion regarding DVD+R media is SPECIFICALLY regarding double-layered media.

There's nothing wrong with using DVD-R single-layered media...

[Margo_Mom]

As always, my pleasure.

PS - I spent a couple of hours searching for info about the differences between -R and +R but I couldn't find anything here on Doom. Do you know if there is? (All my stuff is -R because the +R that I tried before (at least 3 years ago now) didn't work - but you had suggested +R...Please re-read carefully - My suggestion regarding DVD+R media is SPECIFICALLY regarding double-layered media.

There's nothing wrong with using DVD-R single-layered media... [/QUOTE]



Appreciate your patience. I see that you are often here trying to help. Thanks for that.

As it happens, my single-layer DVD's usually seem to work. It is the dual-layer ones. I bought -R dual-layer DVD's because my -R single-layer blanks worked where the +R single-layers didn't. I didn't realize that my problem DVD (which is almost 8 GB's) got converted to a 4 GB ISO - so ImgBurn had no problem. I celebrated and thought the problem was fixed. BUT when I realized what had happened and went back to DVDShrink and found the setting to make it an 8 GB ISO ImgBurn wouldn't burn it (said there was no acceptable dual-layer break point.

That's why I thought maybe I need to re-learn what the difference is between +R and -R. Doesn't sound like the problem, but I just don't know enough.

PS - in my previous message I wasn't very clear. I spent a couple of hours searching for info on the Internet and Doom about +R and -R, not a couple of hours on Doom! I couldn't find anything on Doom on the subject, but I'll bet it's here!

[CWR03]

Try using DVDFab HD Decryter in Full Disk mode to get the files to your hard drive, then use ImgBurn in "Write files/folders to disc" (Formerly known as Build) mode. The layer break will be automatically selected and won't be an issue. With DVD+R DL media, the correct book-type (DVD-ROM) should already be selected.

[Margo_Mom]

Try using DVDFab HD Decryter in Full Disk mode to get the files to your hard drive, then use ImgBurn in "Write files/folders to disc" (Formerly known as Build) mode. The layer break will be automatically selected and won't be an issue. With DVD+R DL media, the correct book-type (DVD-ROM) should already be selected.

Thank you CWR03 (Just realized I don't think I thanked you for your previous post - sorry - thank you belatedly). If I understand correctly, you think my problem might be in the 'ripping' (hope that's the correct use). I would be using DVDFab HD Decrypter instead of my previous use of DVD Decrypter and DVDFab Platinum 4. Then I would use ImgBurn in Build (Mine, which I just dl'd - 2.4.2.0 - says build) instead of EZ Picker.

Okay. Here goes. Will use 'Blood And Sand' from Tyrone Power Collection, also from Fox. (Don't think it matters, but I have had exactly the same problems as with 'Grapes Of Wrath')

Re-ripped to new folder using DVDFab HD Decrypter. Used ImgBurn in 'build' mode - showed 2 layer breaks, 1 was rated 'Good' so I selected that one

Fatal Error popped-up:

Failed to set L0 Data Zone Capacity!
Reason: Power Calibration Area Error

I appreciate everyone's efforts. I didn't even know there was an L0 Data Zone Capacity (even though I still don't know what it is. LOL)

[Margo_Mom]

BTW.

After reading a lot of posts on other threads, then re-reading my posts here, I realize that in trying to be brief my messages could leave a lot of questions unanswered.

I have successfully burned dual-layer archives of other originals in the past using my existing software (including Nero 8), but I think 'unreliable' is a good word to describe the results. I have had a much higher failure rate than with single-layer blanks. I just thought that was the 'nature of the beast'.

[setarip_old]

From the (now eliminated) NERO website FAQ (Error Messages):



9. I get a 'Power calibration error' or 'Calibration area (almost) full' error message. Why?

Power Calibration is controlled by the recorder.

Before any write operation, all recorders must do a 15 step power test to determine the optimum power for writing to the CD; this is called "Optimum Power Calibration"(OPC). During the write, it continues to do this test to get the best write throughout the whole CD; this is called "Running Optimum Power Calibration" (ROPC).
This whole process is controlled by the recorder, though initiated by programs such as Nero. There is an area on the inner part of the CD for the test and test data info to be stored. You can use this area up to 999 times.

If you receive the "Power calibration error" or "Power calibration area is (amost) full" error message, the cause will be either poor media, poor power, or a defective recorder.

Please try the following solutions:

Update the firmware of your recorder. Please check the manufacturer's website for the latest version.
Try another brand of CD-R or CD-RW media.
Try different power connectors, and for recorders, do not share power with other devices. It needs its own power connector. If the error occurs with an external recorder, the power source in the chassis could be the cause. As a test, try to take the recorder out of the external chassis and connect it internal.
Try different configurations, such as taking the CD-ROM to the primary IDE bus as slave and have only the recorder connected to the secondary IDE bus as master.
Send the recorder in for service.