Mistiming of demuxed DVD tracks and some other newbie questions

[archimed7592]

Hi, all!
I bumped into a problem with demuxing my DVDs(to strip, recode and remux them after demuxing).
For example, I demux my DVD by DVD Decrypter and I got these files:
VTS_01 - Stream Information.txt
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1 - 0x20 - Subtitle - English - [SP 01~ W-L] - DELAY 137240ms.SUB
VTS_01_1 - 0x21 - Subtitle - English - [SP 02~ W-L] - DELAY 137240ms.SUB
VTS_01_1 - 0x22 - Subtitle - Russian - [SP 03~ W-L] - DELAY 52680ms.SUB
VTS_01_1 - 0x29 - Subtitle - Russian - [SP 10~ W-L] - DELAY 52760ms.SUB
VTS_01_1 - 0x2C - Subtitle - Russian - [SP 13~ W-L] - DELAY 5080ms.SUB
VTS_01_1 - 0x80 - Audio - AC3 - 6ch - 48kHz - DRC - English - DELAY 0ms.AC3
VTS_01_1 - 0x81 - Audio - AC3 - 6ch - 48kHz - DRC - Russian - DELAY 0ms.AC3
VTS_01_1 - 0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 - 720x576 (PAL) - 16~9 - Letterboxed.M2V
Contents of VTS_01 - Stream Information.txt:
0x20 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 01: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 68562 / PTS: 00:02:17.527 / Delay: 137240ms
0x21 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 02: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 68563 / PTS: 00:02:17.527 / Delay: 137240ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Russian - [SubPicture 03: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 28759 / PTS: 00:00:52.967 / Delay: 52680ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Turkish - [SubPicture 04: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 28761 / PTS: 00:00:52.967 / Delay: 52680ms
0x24 - Subtitle - Hebrew - [SubPicture 05: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 28763 / PTS: 00:00:52.967 / Delay: 52680ms
0x25 - Subtitle - Ukrainian - [SubPicture 06: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 28764 / PTS: 00:00:52.967 / Delay: 52680ms
0x26 - Subtitle - Latvian, Lettish - [SubPicture 07: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 28766 / PTS: 00:00:52.967 / Delay: 52680ms
0x27 - Subtitle - Lithuanian - [SubPicture 08: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 28768 / PTS: 00:00:52.967 / Delay: 52680ms
0x28 - Subtitle - Estonian - [SubPicture 09: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 28770 / PTS: 00:00:52.967 / Delay: 52680ms
0x29 - Subtitle - Russian - [SubPicture 10: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 28817 / PTS: 00:00:53.047 / Delay: 52760ms
0x2A - Subtitle - Turkish - [SubPicture 11: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 28819 / PTS: 00:00:53.047 / Delay: 52760ms
0x2B - Subtitle - Ukrainian - [SubPicture 12: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 28821 / PTS: 00:00:53.047 / Delay: 52760ms
0x2C - Subtitle - Russian - [SubPicture 13: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 1947 / PTS: 00:00:05.367 / Delay: 5080ms
0x2D - Subtitle - Turkish - [SubPicture 14: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 1949 / PTS: 00:00:05.367 / Delay: 5080ms
0x2E - Subtitle - Hebrew - [SubPicture 15: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 1951 / PTS: 00:00:05.367 / Delay: 5080ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 400 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Russian / LBA: 401 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x82 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Turkish / LBA: 402 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x83 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Ukrainian / LBA: 403 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x84 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English - Director's Comments / LBA: 404 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 8 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms

Then, to find out where is my mistake(which leads me to mistimed A/V) I muxing these tracks(audio and video only, without any changes - as they are) to Matroska container with help of mkvmergeGUI. Resulting *.mkv file already have mistiming though all soft-/hard-ware players do not have that mistiming while playing DVD as it is, which means that I've demuxed my DVD in incorrect way.
The question is: what have I done incorrect and which way is correct?

Thereby I have some newbie questions(I tried to find answers with Google and forum search, but... there are no similar problems). These questions are aimed at similar problems which could appear while ripping main movie from a lot of menus, ads, etc. such as mistiming, missing block of audio/video(which I could notice only if I'll watch movie from beginning to end) and so on.

There are a lot of programs supposedly to correctly rip movie from DVD, but some of them takes as input data only *.VOB. As far as I could understand, there are *.IFO which could contain some information, that could alter usual VOB by VOB playing. Am I right, if I consider those programs incorrect?
As all we know, in addition to VIDEO_TS.IFO there usually are VTS_*.IFO. Questions:
Could main movie been located in several VTS_XX? I mean, for example, could different parts of main movie been located in VTS_01.* and VTS_03.*?
If main movie could not been located in several VTS_XX, i.e. it could only been located in one VTS_XX, then, could VIDEO_TS.IFO affect usual playback?

My software player(it is MPC if it's matter), somehow knows that some DVDs' video should be deinterlaced and it knows which method should be used for it... How it knows?
Is there any program, that takes into account all peculiarities of DVD standards(both official and de-facto) and could demux DVD so that I will not be afraid of any mistiming or other problems after wasted day of processor time?

[Oopho2ei]

You are posting this in the wrong forum. This is about video/audio formats and has nothing to do with decryption. Playing back encrypted steams ... cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp .... is just noise :)

[setarip_old]

@archimed7592

Please clarify:

1) You used DVD Decrypter to demux the DVD and generate the first listing. What software did you use to demux the (presumably the same) DVD and generate the second listing (that contains many additional streams)?

2) What is the Title and Region number of your original DVD?

3) What software and procedures did you use to initially "rip" the DVD?

[blutach]

@setarip - please read post 1

For example, I demux my DVD by DVD Decrypter and I got these files:
The 2nd set of files are stream info from DVD Decrypter's IFO mode.

Regards

[setarip_old]

@blutach

Hi!please read post 1Of course, I already read Post #1 - That's why I asked what I did.The 2nd set of files are stream info from DVD Decrypter's IFO mode.Then, as I originally asked, perhaps "archimed7592" (or you) can state what the source is for the "Stream information.txt" of the first set of files? I presume it's also the info generated in DVD Decrypter's "IFO" mode...

[archimed7592]

You are posting this in the wrong forum. This is about video/audio formats and has nothing to do with decryption. Playing back encrypted steams ... cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp .... is just noise :)
Oh, man... excuse my french, but... you are an idiot, :).
As I've already said: decrypted tracks already have mistiming while "stream info" has no information about any delays of A/V tracks... How does it apply to "video/audio formats"? What is "format"? I know terms "codec" and "container" only, but I don't know what is "format".
So, it's your post is a noise - don't try to appear more smarter, than you are ;). I'm a moderator on two biggest russian programmers' forums and believe me - I'll never post a thread in "random" forum.

@archimed7592

Please clarify:

1) You used DVD Decrypter to demux the DVD and generate the first listing. What software did you use to demux the (presumably the same) DVD and generate the second listing (that contains many additional streams)?

2) What is the Title and Region number of your original DVD?

3) What software and procedures did you use to initially "rip" the DVD?
1) I've just unchecked non-interesting (to me) tracks :). I thought it's so easy to deduce it, so I didn't mentioned it... sorry :).
2) Is it matter? "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest", DVD-9, region #5
3) What did you mean by words "initially rip"? 0_o I'm intrigued...

I presume it's also the info generated in DVD Decrypter's "IFO" mode...
Of course it is :). Really, I hadn't even thought, that I'll have to mention to DVD-ripping professionals, that file "Stream Information.txt" is a product of demuxing disk by DVD Decrypter(is there any other popular program among professionals? I really want to hear that program's name :)).

[blutach]

Oh, man... excuse my french, but... you are an idiot,
Please remember rule 4.

Regards

[setarip_old]

Is it matter? "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest", DVD-9, region #5Yes, it does - because most Disney releases contain one of two variants of "RipGuard" copy protection. Your "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest", released on DVD in 2006, likely contains the earlier version of this protection - which allowed DVD Decrypter to run its full course and APPEAR to have created a proper "rip" (decrypt - remove copy protection).

You probably want to re-"rip" your DVD using any of the following programs instead of DVD Decrypter as a standalone program: (freeware) RipIt4Me, (freeware)DVDFab HD Decrypter, (commercial program) DVD95CopyPro, or (commercial program) AnyDVD...

BTW - Are you using DVD Decrypter by itself, or are you using the PSL file-creating capability with it?

[archimed7592]

Please remember rule 4.
Of course I keep in mind that rule... If I wish to not to be nice, I'll never placed that smile after "idiot". Regards :).

You probably want to re-"rip" your DVD using any of the following programs instead of DVD Decrypter as a standalone program: (freeware) RipIt4Me, (freeware)DVDFab HD Decrypter, (commercial program) DVD95CopyPro, or (commercial program) AnyDVD...
Thanks a lot for advice, my friend. I'll try them when I'll arrive home :).

BTW - Are you using DVD Decrypter by itself, or are you using the PSL file-creating capability with it?
I don't know what is "PLS file-creating capability", so I think, that "I'm using DVD Decrypter by itself". I've installed latest version of DVD Decrypter I've found, launched it, switched to IFO mode, done some configuration in options and started demuxing.

[blutach]

Of course I keep in mind that rule... If I wish to not to be nice, I'll never placed that smile after "idiot". Regards :).I'm sorry, but no emoticon can allow you to call someone an idiot on this board. VERY LAST warning. I will not tolerate impoliteness.

Regards

[archimed7592]

I'm sorry, but no emoticon can allow you to call someone an idiot on this board. VERY LAST warning. I will not tolerate impoliteness

Regards
Ok. Oopho2ei, please take my public apology if my post was an insult for your feelings. No smiles here - I'm serious.