Tutorial for editing foul language from dvd?

[linyx]

Should i post a tutorial on editing foul language from dvds (audio and subtitles and maybe video if i can find a freeware editor that keeps audio in sync:cool:) Any opinions are appreciated. Also which forum should this be placed in, if i do write one?

[manono]

Should i post a tutorial on editing foul language from dvds?
No.

Demux (PGCDemux), edit your audio (some WAV Editor), remux (Muxman), stick the edited and remuxed DVD back into the original (VobBlanker).

There's your tutorial. Me, I prefer to watch my movies the way they were intended to be seen. If for children, maybe they shouldn't watch them until they're older.

[blutach]

Or just cut segments in place with VobBlanker - no need to even demux. Note: Cuts can only be done on a GOP basis and if there are open GOPs some B frames may not be decoded properly.

Regards

[Dr.Khron]

Me, I prefer to watch my movies the way they were intended to be seen. If for children, maybe they shouldn't watch them until they're older.

I agree with you, but many people in the US do not.

Unfortunately, we have a deeply puritanical streak running through our national psyche, because there is consistently huge demand for this sort of bowdlerizing. Its really important to some people, so its worth discussion within the context of the tools we use around here.

Ned Flanders is not imaginary... in fact, I'm pretty sure I live next door to him. ;)

[cdanddvdpublisher]

seems to me that there are already tools on the market for those looking to edit things out of films; personally, there's nothing more irksome to me than changes that just seem wrong. keep films as they are and if the language bugs you, turn them off or just don't watch them

[linyx]

Unfortunately, we have a deeply puritanical streak running through our national psyche, because there is consistently huge demand for this sort of bowdlerizing
I do not think so, but seriously who wants to watch a movie like "The Departed" in which the F word is used nearly 20 in the first 15 minutes or "Alpha Dog" where it is used nearly 30 times in the first 15 minutes?

seems to me that there are already tools on the market for those looking to edit things out of films
My tutorial covers editing 5.1 audio using only freeware.

keep films as they are and if the language bugs you, turn them off or just don't watch them
There are plenty of good movies that would reach a far larger audience if only they used more mild language.

[setarip_old]

@linyx

It certainly couldn't hurt to make such a tutorial available...

[Doobie]

Should i post a tutorial on editing foul language from dvds

I don't know why some people are so hostile to the idea of others, presumably parents, being concerned about the words their family are exposed to. The thing that made Puritans so obnoxious wasn't their pharisaical moral standards, but their intolerance of the rights of others. To them, if you celebrate Christmas, you deserve to go to jail. The new Puritans (e.g. the MPAA) argue that if you want to edit your own copy of a movie, that you're also guilty of a crime (copyright violation), at least if you edit it for what they appear to think is high-art, like using the F-word just to boost a middling movie's MPAA rating.

Hollywood is hostile to good culture, like the proverbial black attitude which criticizes studious black students as being "white." As such, Hollywood is willing to take a hit on revenue by not providing alternative audio tracks for the market which they know exists. Even though, they've always been in this business of providing more family-friendly versions for television stations - but unlike an alternatie DVD track, when watching TV, everyone is subjected to those cleaned or gutted versions, both the soccer mom with a ten-year-old son and the 18-year-old ghetto puritan who misses the reason why he can't get a decent job when obscenities flow from his mouth casually and his pants come short of the top of his boxers by two inches.

So, bring on the tutorial.

[DigitalDeviant]

Ok, so someone wants to take their own time and effort to make something that suits their own personal family values without forcing them onto the rest of us? :thanks:

I hope if you do post a guide somewhere it includes how to add those loud beeps over swear words. I think that adds a certain emphasis to the profanity it instead of making somehow cleaner. I think a lot of people would use it for that effect.

[mr soft]

I can't see how foul language can be more offensive than shootings, stabbings, sexual content. Seems to me you would have to do more editing if you were that concerned, and lose most of the movie.

[blutach]

@doobie and mr soft - please remember the rules about political and religious discussion on this board (R15). Comments about Hollywood and the MPAA are well within this board's focus, but stabbings, ghettos, jobs and Puritans etc are not.

Regards

[DigitalDeviant]

I don't see why people want to nitpick his values here. They're his personal values and I"d rather he edit his movies to suit them than him asking the government or some other organization to mandate them for all of us.

[linyx]

Due to the positive responses on this, (setarip_old, Doobie, DigitalDeviant) I will post the tutorial this weekend, if that is alright with the moderator team.

[Guest]

You're free to post anything, as long as it conforms to our rules. You don't have to ask for moderator permission.

[cdanddvdpublisher]

I don't see why people want to nitpick his values here. They're his personal values and I"d rather he edit his movies to suit them than him asking the government or some other organization to mandate them for all of us.

a valid point; i definitely like being able to see films the way they were meant to be but i get that not everyone does

[evilclive]

Decrypt, demux, cut out the offending GOPs with MPEG2Schnitt, remux, burn. Job's a bad 'un.

Not only would you have to watch the uncut film with a clipboard, listing all the swearwords (a miserable task, guaranteed to rile puritans while simultaneously making them risible), but the resulting movie would jump around so much, even a ten-year-old could see something's badly wrong.

I'm sure you have a better solution in mind, though. I look forward to seeing it.

[Guest]

You can just silence the audio over the bad words. You don't have to remove anything, and especially not any of the video. Like bleeping but with silence. :)

[laserfan]

...seriously who wants to watch a movie like "The Departed" in which the F word is used nearly 20 in the first 15 minutes or "Alpha Dog" where it is used nearly 30 times in the first 15 minutes?C'mon linyx. Seriously who wants to watch a movie with 30 dead spots in the audio in the first 15 minutes!!!??? :p

I completely understand parents who find an otherwise "cute movie" they want to show their kids, so they want to edit a couple of F-bombs or sexual references/innuendos or whatever out of them, but for Adults who are interested to watch Adult movies, well they're free to research and choose what they want to watch aren't they.

Frankly the F-bomb should be the least of one's worries wrt movies like the two cited... But bring-on the tutorial anyway, we'd like to see it. :o

[sven_pether]

Please post the tutorial. I am looking forward to it.
Buy the way, how can you just silence the words on a AC3 5.1 track?

[blutach]

Get any program that can edit AC3 and mute the volume over the requisite frames. Save the track and remux.

Regards

[linyx]

Buy the way, how can you just silence the words on a AC3 5.1 track
I use belight to convert it to 6 single channel wave files, edit the center channel, and any other channels that need it, then use wavewizard to convert back to 5.1 wave file, and finally use belight to convert back to ac-3.

[CWR03]

Is that your tutorial?

[setarip_old]

@linyx

May I suggest that you now post your tutorial?

[linyx]

Is that your tutorial?
No, i just showed him how i did that part.

@linyx

May I suggest that you now post your tutorial?
:D I will hopefully tonight, i am still working on getting it typed in a clear and understandible way.

PS: Sorry for not posting it sooner, but i am a very slow typer.

[linyx]

Here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1166099#post1166099) is the tutorial! Again any suggestions will be appreciated!

[Guest]

The thread title of your guide is misleading. Can you fix it?

[linyx]

The thread title of your guide is misleading. Can you fix it?
Changed from "Complete Newbies' Guide to Dvd Editing." to "Complete Guide to Dvd Editing For Newbies"

[Guest]

LOL.

It's about audio and subs editing, right? Not general "DVD editing".

[setarip_old]

@linyx

Succinct. Should be quite usable for those who have the need.

One minor typo (See red type):6) Convert The Six Single Channels Back To a Single Wave File.

Open Wavewizard, and hit F4 to open the preferences. Select
"Stream manipulation" and "Merge files," hit apply and ok. Next, add all SIX wave files and hit Conert.

[linyx]

LOL.

It's about audio and subs editing, right? Not general "DVD editing".
Sometimes people just dont get it do they? :stupid:
Changed again to "Guide to Audio & Subtitles Editing For Newbies."

@setarip_old
Thanks, i changed it to "convert"

[Guest]

Now you left out "DVD". :) I fixed it for you.

[mpucoder]

I don't want to sound like I'm advertising anything here, but have you heard of "TV Guardian". You might want to just get a DVD player with it and save yourself all the work. I believe the way it works is by interpreting the subtitles and silencing the audio when it detects one of the unwanted words.

Of course, I'd still welcome a tutorial as well.

edit: just did a little research, it works with the Closed Caption channel, so the movie must be CC for it to work. Also there is a standalone "profanity filter" that can be used with an existing player, or even with TV.