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Sharktooth
22nd July 2008, 12:56
since im creating new HW presets for megui, i need to know if a series of files play back correctly on your cellphones or PDAs.
the file is an MP4 file and it requires a player able to playback AVC baseline 1.1 (encoded with x264) and AAC-LC (encoded with neroaacenc) in MP4 (coreplayer or realplayer can do that).
i need to know what device can play what file without frame drop or audio stuttering AND if the default installed media player can open the files or you needed to install another MP or any additional software.

Test the files in this order:

Level1.2 encode with AAC-HE (http://www.webalice.it/f.corriga/temp/cp-l12+he.mp4)
Level1.1 encode with AAC-HE (http://www.webalice.it/f.corriga/temp/cp-l11+he.mp4)
Level1.0 encode with AAC-LC (http://www.webalice.it/f.corriga/temp/cp-l10+lc.mp4)

Bitowzky
22nd July 2008, 14:21
Plays fine on E65(@ ~206Mhz iirc), using coreplayer.

Sharktooth
23rd July 2008, 00:41
e65 should be almost identical to N73 for decoding.
i was told SE cellphones support only level 1b so, since x264 does support only level 1.0 and 1.1+ we have no options for 1b.
so i will create 3 profiles for cellphones/PDAs using level 1.0 for devices which support level 1.0 and 1b (like nokia N70 and SE phones), level 1.1 for devices (like N73 and e65) that support that level and level 1.2 but only with AAC-LC and a third profile @ level 1.2 for devices (like nokia N95) that supports lev 1.2 with AAC-HE.
objections?

Danisan
23rd July 2008, 12:51
It plays on the default media player in my Nokia N78 (S60 3rd Edition, Feature Pack 2).

Sharktooth
23rd July 2008, 12:58
That's quite obvious coz n78 has a faster CPU (almost twice) than n73 but thanx anyway for reporting.
i will post ASAP another encoding with higher level (1.2) and bitrate to test on your phone.
what do you think of the 3 presets idea?

Danisan
23rd July 2008, 13:19
I think the 3 preset idea is a good one. Do they come with bitrate recommendations? Have you looked at the technical documents at the Nokia (http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/47cc7ad7-eb00-4bc3-836a-bcf0ebdea51a/Multimedia_Framework_Architecture_in_S60_Devices_v1_1_en.pdf.html) website? I'm sure you know that stuff already, though.

Sharktooth
23rd July 2008, 13:35
they'll come with almost the max bitrate allowed per level (64kbps for 1.0, 192kbps for 1.1 and 384kbps for 1.2)... subject to changes... expecially lev 1.2 (lower bitrate)

anonova
25th July 2008, 02:38
HTC TyTN II (Kaiser)
Windows Mobile 6.1

it seems to play fine in windows media player (the default on the device). here are the benchmark results from coreplayer mobile.

Average Speed: 240.11%
Video Frames: 1291
Audio Samples: 4056529
Amount of Data: 2210 KB

Bench. Time: 00:33.605
Bench. Frame Rate: 38.417
Bench. Sample Rate: 538 kbit/s

Original Time: 01:20.687
Original Frame Rate: 16.000
Original Sample Rate: 48000
Original Data Rate: 224 kbit/s

Audionut
25th July 2008, 12:30
Fine here on a 6110 navigator with the default realplayer.

This is what coreplayer reports.

Average speed 197.33%
Bench time 40.891
Bench frame rate 31.57
Bench sample rate 97615
Bench data rate 442 kbit/s

Sharktooth
25th July 2008, 12:49
files updated.

Audionut
25th July 2008, 12:57
All fine. Here's the results.

Level1.2 encode with AAC-HE
Time 40.031
Frame rate 30.25
Sample rate 49881
Data rate 724kbit/s

Level1.1 encode with AAC-HE
Time 42.609
Frame rate 28.42
Sample rate 46862
Data rate 925kbit/s

Level1.0 encode with AAC-LC
Time 33.937
Frame rate 35.68
Sample rate 117614
Data rate 231kbit/s

saint-francis
25th July 2008, 16:22
Please remember that coreplayer can now decode HE AAC. Also you might want to make a profile for advanced PDA's since they have pretty decent processing power now and can handle a lot more than a cell phone. I have such a PDA and would be willing to test what ever you want.

squid_80
25th July 2008, 16:24
Please remember that coreplayer can now decode HE AAC. Where did you hear that?

rack04
25th July 2008, 17:04
Here are my results using Axim X51v 624 MHz Intel XScale PXA270 Processor running WM 5.0 624MHz. I played these files using CorePlayer v1.1.1 build 1600.

Level1.2 encode with AAC-HE

Average Speed: 459.86%
Bench Time: 17.556
Bench Frame Rate: 68.98
Bench Sample Rate: 119052
Bench Data Rate: 1.65 mbit/s

Level1.1 encode with AAC-HE

Average Speed: 432.38%
Bench Time: 18.672
Bench Frame Rate: 64.86
Bench Sample Rate: 111900
Bench Data Rate: 2.11 mbit/s

Level1.0 encode with AAC-LC

Average Speed: 500.18%
Bench Time: 16.141
Bench Frame Rate: 75.03
Bench Sample Rate: 251126
Bench Data Rate: 486 kbit/s

Sharktooth
25th July 2008, 18:21
Please remember that coreplayer can now decode HE AAC. Also you might want to make a profile for advanced PDA's since they have pretty decent processing power now and can handle a lot more than a cell phone. I have such a PDA and would be willing to test what ever you want.
No problems.
Have any suggestions for the presets? Level, , Profile,m base bitrate, etc...