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zilog jones
9th July 2008, 22:46
I'm converting some old home videos to DVD (PAL, keeping them interlaced) and was wondering if there's any improvements I could make to the MPEG2 encoding. They're quite short (20-30 minutes) and I'm using PCM audio so I can go up to 8Mb/s. I heard CBR should be fine at this bitrate so I tried QuEnc at first but had trouble with it keeping under the specified bitrate (max. set to same) with some videos, so I'm using HC instead (average bitrate 2-pass).
This is what I'm using so far:
*BITRATE 8000
*MAXBITRATE 8000
*PROFILE best
*ASPECT 4:3
*AUTOGOP 15
*AQ 1
*DC_PREC 10
*INTERLACED
*BIAS 100
*MATRIX mpeg
However, there's a few options I'm not sure about. Would there be much point in using higher AQ or luminance gain at this bitrate? Also, I don't know much about matrices - are there any aimed particularly at high bitrate/quality?
Also, I take it 1.0 mono PCM would not be DVD compliant? IIRC the audio needs at least 2 channels, right?
blutach
9th July 2008, 23:39
Depending on source quality, I can't see what is wrong with using VBR. Say BIAS of 20-30 and max BR of 8500 with a BR of 6,000. Lumgain of 2 might adjust better for darker scenes. High BR matrix would be Fox 1.
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AFAIK, there is no issues with having only 1 channel LPCM.
Discs containing 525/60 (NTSC) video must use PCM or Dolby Digital on at least one track. Discs containing 625/50 (PAL/SECAM) video must use PCM or MPEG audio or Dolby Digital on at least one track. Additional tracks may be in any format. So, you are OK with 1 channel PCM.
Regards
zilog jones
10th July 2008, 21:27
Thanks for the advice, however using that matrix I noticed rather persistant blocking (not sure of correct terminology) on B-frames in dark noisy scenes. This issue was not as apparent using the MPEG matrix with the same settings for everything else.
Also, I interpret that quote regarding audio as "at least one track" refering to audio tracks or streams, not the amount of channels in a stream or track or whatever you want to call it, as he is talking about the mandatory minimum requirements for audio streams in a compliant DVD (e.g. you can't have just a DTS track, or just an MP2 track on an NTSC DVD). Wikipedia says only MP2 and AC3 can be 1-channel (LPCM or DTS need 2), but it doesn't seem to site a source for this info and I always thought it was at least 2 for any type of audio.
Blue_MiSfit
10th July 2008, 23:55
heck - why not just mp2 or ac3 compress it? save a little bitrate for video ;)
~MiSfit
blutach
11th July 2008, 07:57
Thanks for the advice, however using that matrix I noticed rather persistant blocking (not sure of correct terminology) on B-frames in dark noisy scenes. This issue was not as apparent using the MPEG matrix with the same settings for everything else.
And to fix this, use Lumgain=2 (or even 3).
Regards
EpheMeroN
11th July 2008, 08:32
What exactly does this Lumgain increase do? I've wondered about it, and I see you guys saying to use it sometimes for high bitrate encodes in HC.
blutach
11th July 2008, 11:13
Read the help file (PDF)!
This command adapts the quantization matrices on dark scenes so the bitrate will be raised.
• 0 no change
• 1 mild change
• 2 moderate change
• 3 heavy change
• 4 hit dark scenes real hard
Regards
zilog jones
11th July 2008, 16:35
And to fix this, use Lumgain=2 (or even 3).
Regards
I was using Lumgain=2 like you said in your first reply. :confused:
I compared it to the same video encoded using the "mpeg" matrix and exact same settings for everything else and there was very little blocking in comparison.
heck - why not just mp2 or ac3 compress it? save a little bitrate for video
The videos are less than an hour long, so I have 8Mb/s for video as it is :)
Blue_MiSfit
11th July 2008, 23:14
Gotcha :)
Have fun!
blutach
12th July 2008, 01:31
Well, it sounds as if you're satisfied, and if that's the case, there's no more to be done. :)
Regards
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