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fibbingbear
22nd June 2008, 18:45
I am curious what format / how much processing people do to their DVDs when backing them up for archival quality (no conversion). My questions:
1.) Do people just rip the VOBs and leave them as is? Do they index them / extract chapter information / subtitles / etc. and mux that into another format (like mkv) [perhaps this makes processing them easier at a later time]?
2.) Do people that have archival video write AVS scripts to do run-time post-processing, so the video looks better (but is fundamentally unchanged)?
3.) Do people consider pure DVD rips a silly concept in the first place, and just re-process all the videos they archive?
I found a few things when I searched this forum, but nothing that definitive. Also, "common practices" change over time, so no idea if the older posts are accurate. Thanks!
Guest
22nd June 2008, 19:32
I just ISO copy DVD5 to DVD5 and DVD9 to DVD9. I store the ISO images on a hard disk as well. Fast perfect backups every time. :)
setarip_old
22nd June 2008, 20:53
Hi!
Based on the myriad related postings I've read (and threads in which I've participated) here and at other forums, it appears that I am very much in the minority when it comes to making backups of my DVD collection.
I always burn complete (decrypted, of course) backups, "warts and all", including all languages, all subtitles, all FBI/Interpol warnings - usually compressed by either DVD2One, DVD95Copy, or DVD Shrink and burned to a DVD5. If I determine that a DVD compressed using these specific tools suffers visually (typically either lengthy or high-action titles), I'll make an uncompressed DVD9 (I use Verbatim D/L DVD+R, made in Singapore, exclusively).
Guest
22nd June 2008, 21:00
(decrypted, of course) Why "of course"? Players all do the decryption and if you later need clear data it's not hard to rip an ISO.
Ajax_Undone
22nd June 2008, 21:34
Hi!
Based on the myriad related postings I've read (and threads in which I've participated) here and at other forums, it appears that I am very much in the minority when it comes to making backups of my DVD collection.
I always burn complete (decrypted, of course) backups, "warts and all", including all languages, all subtitles, all FBI/Interpol warnings - usually compressed by either DVD2One, DVD95Copy, or DVD Shrink and burned to a DVD5. If I determine that a DVD compressed using these specific tools suffers visually (typically either lengthy or high-action titles), I'll make an uncompressed DVD9 (I use Verbatim D/L DVD+R, made in Singapore, exclusively).
You know I do the same thing...
neuron2 I don't know I suppose its because in order to shrink the DVD9 to a DVD5. DVD shrink and others either decrypt the video them selves, or require that the video is unencrypted before it will processes them...
setarip_old
22nd June 2008, 22:52
@neuron2
Hi!Why "of course"?As "Ajax_Undone" pointed out regarding my initial post to this thread, more often than not, I'm compressing DVD9s to DVD5s - and this procedure requires decryption and elimination of any other type of copy protection...
(Additionally, for travel purposes, to lighten my load, I frequently use MPEGMediator convert a slew of DVDs to "movie-only" .AVIs and place from 4 to 7 on a single DVD5. Preliminary setup for this requires full DVD "packages" [.IFOs, .BUPs, and .VOBs], rather than .ISO image files.
linyx
22nd June 2008, 23:35
I make exact copies of the main movie to my harddrive and compressed copies to dvd5.
EPiPH0NE
23rd June 2008, 01:55
When I watch the movie I just do ISO and play from my NMT. Before that I would just watch the DVD in my player and decide if I wanted to archive it which used to involve DVD Rebuilder Pro + CCE (8 pass) -> DVD5 or just DVD5 -> DVD-R5. Now a days I do DVD5/9 -> MKV using 2-pass x264 (keeping only main move + audio) which gives me the same quality that my CCE rips used to give me but at 1/3 the size so I can put 3 movies on one DVD-R. I don't believe in HDD storage as optical storage is much cheaper. As you said, standards change. Who knows what we'll be using to archive stuff in the future.
mr soft
23rd June 2008, 07:16
Thing is, thereīs no compatibility probs with vobs.
Main movie, in good old ts folder, on HD for me. DVD 5 or 9.
Shrink out all that stuff at the beginning and most of the credits
(unless itīs a killer track)
DVDs are cheaper ,but lots of spindles gets messy.
EPiPH0NE
23rd June 2008, 07:48
Thing is, thereīs no compatibility probs with vobs.
Main movie, in good old ts folder, on HD for me. DVD 5 or 9.
Shrink out all that stuff at the beginning and most of the credits
(unless itīs a killer track)
DVDs are cheaper ,but lots of spindles gets messy.
Yeah, as I said I keep VOB in ISO when first watching DVD on my NMT or just play disc from my player which currently is an Xbox 360. HD I watch 720p/1080p x264/MKV rips or my own 1080p ES rips in TS/M2TS with 5.1 (L)PCM/AC3/DTS. And when 320GB HDD's become $8.99 please let me know.
Shinigami-Sama
23rd June 2008, 07:59
now that have a 1tb drive and plan on getting a couple more of them
just straight rip to ISO, clean it up with fixvts and such and be done with it
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