Distorted images with AutoGK

[kirk1701™]

Hello,
I'm very new and ripe to the converting scene so please bare with me.

I've been attempting to use AutoGK, having success at the converting and playing back part but it's the playback part that I'm having a lot of issue's with.

All my encoded AVI's are disfigured or in better words the images are distorted. I've tried all the settings that can possible be tried (one at a time) with autoGK and keep coming up with the same problem either tiny black bars on each side as if the video is not wide enough to fit to the screen or I have the bars at the top and bottom which distorts the images and makes people look fat.

Not even sure yet if I'm in the right place, if not please forgive me and point me in the right direction. Is AutoGK even the best program for encoding, is there any other programs I could try that are just as easy to configure and work? Or is it possible I might get some help with what I need to do with AutoGK?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance

[stax76]

Welcome to the forum. Might be a player problem, you can try different players like MPC, KMP and VLC.

[CWR03]

AutoGK usually does a very good job of outputting a file with the correct AR. If "all your encoded AVI's are disfigured," it's highly unlikely that AutGK is the cause. It's your player, whether you play them on the PC or in a standalone, or it's because you've allowed AutoGK to crop when it shouldn't have.

[kirk1701™]

AutoGK usually does a very good job of outputting a file with the correct AR. If "all your encoded AVI's are disfigured," it's highly unlikely that AutGK is the cause. It's your player, whether you play them on the PC or in a standalone, or it's because you've allowed AutoGK to crop when it shouldn't have.

No, didn't crop but I have tried all the hidden settings and advanced settings each one at a time.

At this point I was thinking the same thing, "stand alone" not program.

[setarip_old]

Hi!At this point I was thinking the same thing, "stand alone" not program.Try changing your standalone player's display setting from 4:3 to 16:9 or vice-versa...

[CWR03]

At this point I was thinking the same thing, "stand alone" not program.
Depending on what your player needs as an input to display properly, you could create a file with AutoGK that will have no choice but to play at the proper AR. For example, a film that should be 2.35:1 will be cropped by AutoGK and will appear stretched horizontally. If your player stretches everything to 16:9, disable the crop and force 16:9, and you'll get a good file. The black bars will be part of the file and will fill where it had been stretched.

[kirk1701™]

Depending on what your player needs as an input to display properly, you could create a file with AutoGK that will have no choice but to play at the proper AR. For example, a film that should be 2.35:1 will be cropped by AutoGK and will appear stretched horizontally. If your player stretches everything to 16:9, disable the crop and force 16:9, and you'll get a good file. The black bars will be part of the file and will fill where it had been stretched.

Thanks for the info CWR; first question I have is the 2.35.1? I've heard some other folks talking this jargen and I know it has something to do with the AR and 16:9 but not sure how they are related just yet. Hope that makes sense :confused:

Second, I hope your right and it is just my player in which case I could live with and know that my back-ups would look right years down the road when viewed from say "a different and upgraded player".

Third, the only way I know right now is to show, with pics so I'm going back to the screenshots I have saved on the PC in the folder with the encoded tests I've done.
Might have to post these in several posts.

The first two pic's are of the Original Disk and how it looks on the stand alone (which I might also add all other DVD's play fine also, no AR issues) its just with AVI files.
Now is it just me because when the TV is put into "Full" (FullScreen) the images look distorted. When in Zoom, no picture loss and looks good.

Now take a look at the following two pic's which were encoded with default settings. Same Zoom Mode now presents small black bars on each side and in Full mode black bars on sides and top/bottom.

Don't know if this will help, I was told elsewhere it would so the finished deminsions of the AVI is 656 X 368 which I was told was very odd.

and is case this helps, here't the log file of the encoding.
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] AutoGK 2.48b
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] Job started.
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] Input file: F:\ER\Motherhood\MainMovie\ER SEASON ONE DISC 04 SIDE A\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] Output file: I:\DivX\Series Shows\ER\Season 1\6.Default Settings New Version\Motherhood.avi
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] Output codec: XviD
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 2ch
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] Subtitles: none
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] Format: AVI
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] Target size: 350Mb
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] Started encoding.
[6/11/2008 5:40:16 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[6/11/2008 5:40:53 PM] Processing file: F:\ER\Motherhood\MainMovie\ER SEASON ONE DISC 04 SIDE A\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[6/11/2008 5:40:53 PM] Processing file: F:\ER\Motherhood\MainMovie\ER SEASON ONE DISC 04 SIDE A\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
[6/11/2008 5:40:53 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[6/11/2008 5:40:53 PM] Found NTSC source.
[6/11/2008 5:40:53 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[6/11/2008 5:40:53 PM] Color correction enabled.
[6/11/2008 5:40:53 PM] Analyzing source.
[6/11/2008 5:42:36 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 41.16
[6/11/2008 5:42:36 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 98.94
[6/11/2008 5:42:36 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 1.06
[6/11/2008 5:42:36 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 0.00
[6/11/2008 5:42:36 PM] Source is considered to be FILM.
[6/11/2008 5:42:36 PM] Output will contain 67686 frames
[6/11/2008 5:42:36 PM] Decoding audio.
[6/11/2008 5:43:14 PM] Normalizing audio.
[6/11/2008 5:43:25 PM] Encoding audio.
[6/11/2008 5:49:23 PM] Audio1 size: 37,366,104 bytes (35.64 Mb)
[6/11/2008 5:49:23 PM] Overhead: 2,707,456 bytes (2.58 Mb)
[6/11/2008 5:49:23 PM] Video size: 326,928,040 bytes (311.78 Mb)
[6/11/2008 5:49:23 PM] Running compressibility test.
[6/11/2008 5:49:23 PM] Writing the following script to I:\DivX\Series Shows\ER\Season 1\6.Default Settings New Version\agk_tmp\Motherhood_comptest.avs
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LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("I:\DivX\Series Shows\ER\Season 1\6.Default Settings New Version\agk_tmp\Motherhood.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false,threads=0)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[6/11/2008 5:52:14 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 50 seconds
[6/11/2008 5:52:14 PM] Speed was: 19.81 fps.
[6/11/2008 5:52:14 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 74.97
[6/11/2008 5:52:14 PM] Chosen resolution is: 656x384 ( AR: 1.71 )
[6/11/2008 5:52:14 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 70.09%
[6/11/2008 5:52:14 PM] Running first pass.
[6/11/2008 5:52:14 PM] Writing the following script to I:\DivX\Series Shows\ER\Season 1\6.Default Settings New Version\agk_tmp\Motherhood_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("I:\DivX\Series Shows\ER\Season 1\6.Default Settings New Version\agk_tmp\Motherhood.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 656
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false,threads=0)
===========================================================
[6/11/2008 6:22:18 PM] Duration was: 30 minutes 4 seconds
[6/11/2008 6:22:18 PM] Speed was: 37.51 fps.
[6/11/2008 6:22:18 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 68.55%
[6/11/2008 6:22:18 PM] Running second pass.
[6/11/2008 7:04:59 PM] Duration was: 42 minutes 41 seconds
[6/11/2008 7:04:59 PM] Speed was: 26.43 fps.
[6/11/2008 7:04:59 PM] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 24 minutes 43 seconds

[kirk1701™]

Hi!Try changing your standalone player's display setting from 4:3 to 16:9 or vice-versa...
Sorry, didn't see your reply setarip.

Been here also, done that.

The first two pics would be of the settings I have for the stand alone.

The last one would be a screenshot of another encoding of a show IN WHICH I DID NOT ENCODE! acquired this by other means but notice the similarities to the one I did encode. This is what makes me wonder if its actually a limitation of the stand alone and not the work of improper encoding?

Might be worth mentioning any other movies I aquire this way also show up somewhat "off" distorted if in full mode, missing part of the pic if in zoom.

[kirk1701™]

AutoGK usually does a very good job of outputting a file with the correct AR. If "all your encoded AVI's are disfigured," it's highly unlikely that AutGK is the cause. It's your player, whether you play them on the PC or in a standalone, or it's because you've allowed AutoGK to crop when it shouldn't have.

Just thought I'd pop in and say thanks for the help all.

CWR03 you were right, it was the stand alone :)

Went today and got a Pioneer model DV-410V-K and guess what :p

Same files, play perfectly normal now and no distortions, no oversized black bars, no small bars on the sides.

Me a happy camper now :)

Thanks again.

[kirk1701™]

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[hopstiii]

Hi

What limitations the dv-410v-k has for XviD settings? :)

[BigDid]

Hi,

Reviving an old thread may not give you useful answers.

As for the Pioneer if I understand your question as "what limitations for playing xvid particular settings, like Qpel, GMC etc..."? answer is it depends on the chipset. If it is a mediatek 1389 serie or newer good chances; if not I don't know.

Did

[hopstiii]

Yes it's MediaTek MT1389.
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edit

http://www.m4p.hu/players/366/Pioneer_DV-410V

"GMC 2 or 3 warp point (XviD) = NO" Does it mean i have to turn XviD GMC allways off because there aint no warp point nr. selection option in VirtualDub?
GMC 1 warp point (DivX) = OK

Packed bitstream = OK
Q-Pel = OK
Containers: .avi = OK
AC3 sound support in DivX and XviD movies = OK

[BigDid]

...
"GMC 2 or 3 warp point (XviD) = NO" Does it mean i have to turn XviD GMC allways off because there aint no warp point nr. selection option in VirtualDub?
GMC 1 warp point (DivX) = OK...

Hi,

GMC should be off by default, to verify in the xvid encoder accessible by start/programs or inside VdubMod when choosing the codec.

Within Autogk, the MTK preset will not use GMC or QPEL.

Did

[hopstiii]

:)

Thanks BigDid

[hopstiii]

So i bought the dv-410v-k. It's not playing Xvid even without GMC. It sucks bigtime. Weird XviD decoding is far from cpu intensity and dv-410v-k isn't old model (2008 middle), my 2006 C2D e4500 uses 10% for decoding.

So i guess XviD is for PC and i might asvel encode my dvd's to X264 because dark areas aint washed out so mutch with X264 and it doesn't hurt my eyes so mutch.

:mad::confused:
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It's wrong place to write it but only result what doom9 Search gave me on dv-410v. :p

[BigDid]

Hi,

Sorry to hear about that. Return and refund?

If not 2 things you can do
- for older files use MPEG4modifier to change the 4cc code from xvid_xxx to divx_xxx, see doc and related threads. If already identifiedd as divx no luck
- for new encodes with AGK try the ESS preset or use divx as codec...

Did