Avidemux not working at all, really.

[Flexy]

I am under Vista64 and just got Avidemux 2.4.1

I thought i am an idiot since i tried to encode some test video, but it just didnt save the video at all, just one frame.

I reinstalled several times, then i chose only QT4 interface, and now it encodes. Under GTK it just didnt encode at all.

Also..i have no idea why there is an option in the installer to select BOTH GUIs (GTK, QT4)....but then in the preferences i cant switch between the GUIs.

Also..why cant i resize the output video on the screen at all?

Eg. i encode with all even frames dropped, then output video is half the height. But i cannot resize or move the preview/output windows at all.

In Vdub i usually have both side by side, with the original video very tiny, and the other one at desired size. Why this restriction in flexibilty???

Edit: Whow..i just see in the menu, eg. if i select filters...it shows all garbled junk strings...this program is seriously screwed up.

http://www.moneyflux.com/375/a.jpg

[avdw]

Just forget it. Avidemux has become the buggiest tool of them all.

[Flexy]

yes...i just wanted to do a simple resize....i couldnt resize at all, just didnt allow me to enter higher values.
Back to VdubMod Mpeg

Btw...in the back of my head i remember someone mentioning another program (not Avidemux) and comparing it to Vdub...i cant, for my life, not find this thread or site anymore.
I just remember vaguely a name like "VCCDB...." (Vxxxx something...) or maybe the person just referred to any of the other VDub ports out there using an abbreviaton.

is there any other tool out there, similar to vdub, virtualdub, vdubmod etc..?

[LoRd_MuldeR]

@avdw:

Unless you have something useful to say, keep away from posting. Thanks! :rolleyes:


@Flexy:

Don't worry. First of all make sure you download the latest build of Avidemux from here:
http://www.razorbyte.com.au/avidemux/ (Mirror #1 (http://mulder.dummwiedeutsch.de/home/?page=projects#avidemux))

Latest version is r4028 (14 May 2008) at the moment. I think they recently fixed something that might have caused the problem you describe.

Also I'd recommend to use the GTK+ interface, instead of the Qt interface (as shown on your screenshot).
The Qt interface still is under development, while the GTK+ interface is more complete...

And note that you do not switch the interface in the preferences. There are two separate programs:
Goto "Start > Programs > Avidemux" and then either choose "Avidemux 2.4 GTK+" (avidemux2_gtk.exe) or "Avidemux 2.4 Qt" (avidemux2_qt4.exe)

Here it works 100% fine with both interfaces:

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4100/admresizezt2.th.png (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=admresizezt2.png) http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4618/admresize2aa3.th.png (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=admresize2aa3.png)

If you still encounter problems, please report them here: http://bugs.avidemux.org/


is there any other tool out there, similar to vdub, virtualdub, vdubmod etc..?

"VDub" is "VirtualDub". And that "VirtualDubMod" is a really old fork of VirtualDub, that was discontinued and shouldn't be used nowadays.
So if you want to use VirtualDub, simply download that latest official version from the website: http://www.virtualdub.org/

Some useful VirtualDub plugins (not VirtualDubMod) have been mentioned here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1140228&postcount=73

[setarip_old]

@LoRd_MuldeRAnd that "VirtualDubMod" is a really old fork of VirtualDub, that was discontinued and shouldn't be used nowadays.Doesn't AutoGK specifically use/require VirtualDub MOD?

[LoRd_MuldeR]

@LoRd_MuldeRDoesn't AutoGK specifically use/require VirtualDub MOD?
I don't know, because I never used AutoGK.
But if it does, then it is using an outdated piece of software with no future updates/fixes to come.
That might be okay, as long as VDubMod does everything AutoGK currently needs...

Nevertheless I don't see any reason why anybody should prefer VDubMod over current VirtualDub:
1. VirtualDub now supports MPEG-2, WMV, QuickTime and FLV input, thanks to it's new Plugin system (VDubMod does not support Input-Plugins)
2. The MKV support in VirtualDubMod is so much outdated, that even the Matroska web-site warns you from using VirtualDubMod to edit MKV files
3. Since VirtualDubMod was started, VirtualDub has seen hundreds of improvements and fixes that never were ported back into VirtualDubMod

[setarip_old]

Simply as a point of information, postings at the Doom9 Forum and other forums clearly indicate that, despite its age, there are still many users of the AutoGK system and, therefore VirtualDub MOD continues to be a viable program for that purpose (BTW, I'm not a user of AutoGK)...

[squid_80]

I think the main reason these programs (AutoGK/GK) are stuck relying on virtualdubmod is because they use the /log command-line switch to generate a vdenc.log file, which isn't possible with virtualdub.

[Flexy]

Mulder,

after i saw that the milestone couldnt even encode my video (under GTK) i DID download the latest SVN. This worked, at least it was encoding.

But then i wanted to resize a movie i dropped all even fields, so it was 720x240...and wanted to so a simple resize again to 720x480.
I used both resize filters and just could NOT resize the movie - the value always jumped back to 240.

The fact that i also cannot resize the output window(s) is a big drawback, for me.

The other problem was that most of the included filters, noise filters etc. did not really have real-time preview..at least not as straightforward/easy as the old vdub filters.

This all with the latest SVN.

Also, i have vdub, vdubmud, vdubmodmpeg-2..i am using whatever can read my desired formats. Might go back to vdub again as you say.


What i liked in Avidemux was the straightforward selection of encoding filters and setttings, eg. i only tested Xvid...but i wish the other functions would be more stable respective working. It totally eluded me why i couldnt even resize my video using a resize filter.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

But then i wanted to resize a movie i dropped all even fields, so it was 720x240...and wanted to so a simple resize again to 720x480.
I used both resize filters and just could NOT resize the movie - the value always jumped back to 240.
So if I understand this correct, your desired filter chain is:
720x480 -> "Keep odd fields" -> 720x240 -> "MPlayer resize" -> 720x480

This works 100% fine here, as you can see on the screenshot. Really, I can't see any value "jump back" here :confused:
So please give some more info!

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2126/admresize3pr8.th.png (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=admresize3pr8.png)


Furthermore I think this is one of the worst deinterlacing methods you can do. Why do you do it that way?
Why not simply use "libavcodec deinterlacer" with "Cubic interpolate" mode?

720x480 -> "libavcodec deinterlacer" -> 720x480


BTW: There is no need to use VirtualDub-MPEG2 any more, simply use latest "official" VirtualDub with MPEG-2 Plugin.
The MPEG-2 Plugin is from the same author that created the VirtualDub-MPEG2 mod, back in the time when there was no Input-Plugin support...

[Flexy]

Mulder,

this was just for a test. Basically i dropped the one field and then just wanted to have a visual idea how the result looks without the field. Also..it was for extracting two movies out of a stereo movie...where left/right is encoded in interlaced..so i wanted to extract "movie_right.avi" and "movie_left.avi"

Since "movie_right.avi" is half vertical resolution..i used a resize in Vdub..which (in addition) also smoothed the image a bit...so it made the two movies "subjectively" look better, not as pixelated.

I tried exactly as you described above in avidemux...going from 720x240 -> 720x480...it never worked!!

[LoRd_MuldeR]

See this animation :rolleyes:

http://mplayer.somestuff.org/misc/adm_resize/adm_resize.htm

[Flexy]

well...it's not i doubt you. I am a little busy right now..but i will repeat what i did in a little and i will report back whether i still have the problem.

[Flexy]

reinstalled latest SVN..loaded test videos...configured XVID.

Loaded "keep odd frames" filter...loaded MP resize...doesnt work. No matter what i set...it resets back to the values before.

[Graigddu]

LoRd MuldeR wrote@avdw:
Unless you have something useful to say, keep away from posting. Thanks!


I'm sorry but i find avdw post is useful and they have a legitimate right to state their opinion
as avidemux is buggy and doesn't look likely to get any better any time soon

i started using the program last year and found that although i installed every revision that appeared
the output files were still useless if they needed to be loaded into other software afterwards i tried posting
on main forum and although i received a couple of answers from developers after the initial
interest the help dried up without the problem being sorted

If you want to encode x264 then avidemux seems fine but if you need editing or other encoder outputs
don't bother.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

I'm sorry but i find avdw post is useful and they have a legitimate right to state their opinion
as avidemux is buggy and doesn't look likely to get any better any time soon.

Well, if he thinks a certain feature is broken, then he can express his opinion, of course!

That would be:
I personally don't use program X, because I tried to use feature Y and it didn't work as expected. So there might be a bug.
Of course I have reported the problem to the Author of X, so the problem can be investigated and fixed.

But what he said is that Avidemux is generally buggy (without being specific) and it should not be used at all :rolleyes:
This comment simply isn't legitimate and doesn't hold any useful info. It's pure bashing...

[avdw]

Well, at least someone understands what I maean, thanks for that Graigddu.

@Lord_Mulder

How to be specific if close to anything in Avidemux is buggy ? I think my tread will be chopped off if I would start to sum up all bugged
parts of it....

Perhaps summing up the good parts is faster :

- It has a nice interface !! (Too bad it even passes the wrong commands to the encoder).

[LoRd_MuldeR]

I think my tread will be chopped off if I would start to sum up all bugged parts of it....
So far you have not named one!

I can tell you that I use Avidemux almost every day and that I have encoded hundreds of videos with that program.
It might be perfectly possible that you want to do specific tasks that can not be done with Avidemux.
But only because it's not the right program for your personal needs doesn't mean that other people cannot use it with great success.

And keep in mind that this is OpenSource software, provided to you for free. You really should show a bit more respect :rolleyes:
That means: If you find a bug, go and report it. Don't cry. Instead try to help the developers to get it fixed!

If you don't want to help fixing bugs, that's your decision. But in that case you can't expect anybody to care for your problems...

[JuanC]

I've been successfuly encoding lots of video clips from many different formats into MP4 for my daughter's iPod :cool: and my nokia phone :). Also, I have correctly encoded some flvs :) :thanks: to the development team...

[Flexy]

that's all nice and good. Nevertheless i couldnt even do the most simple resize.

I think i mentioned already i am under Vista64 - if there is a way to contribute tracking down this bug i am more than willing to help.
(I could make a video, demonstrating that it does indeed not work, but i am too lazy. It's not that i am pulling this out of my *** ;)

[Graigddu]

So far you have not named one!

I can tell you that I use Avidemux almost every day and that I have encoded hundreds of videos with that program.
It might be perfectly possible that you want to do specific tasks that can not be done with Avidemux.
But only because it's not the right program for your personal needs doesn't mean that other people cannot use it with great success.

And keep in mind that this is OpenSource software, provided to you for free. You really should show a bit more respect :rolleyes:
That means: If you find a bug, go and report it. Don't cry. Instead try to help the developers to get it fixed!

If you don't want to help fixing bugs, that's your decision. But in that case you can't expect anybody to care for your problems...

From what i have read of your posts LoRd_MuldeR you only mention encoding with x264 which from the update logs seems to get worked on often but correct me if i'm wrong but avidemux calls itself

A free multi-format, cross-platform video editor designed for simple cutting, filtering and encoding tasks

you mentioned to avdw that "do specific tasks that can not be done with Avidemux" all i wanted was a simple noise filtering with a output file other than x264 and all i received was a file unable to be used in any other software afterwards
even tried a test using avidemux and virtualdub,the same codec without filters was used with the same settings and where virtualdub triumphed avidemux fell over once again.
i understand that avidemux is open source and as such is
probably worked on in the dev's spare time and i really do respect mean for that but i don't respect avidemux,i really think that the advancement of avidemux should be stopped until it is what seems to be serious flaws are corrected so as to at least hold up some of it's claims and no where does it as some web sites claim come close to being virtualdub's rival.