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spunky1a
2nd May 2008, 00:22
how to make (6x mono-wave to) a DDplus or DTSHD track (for HD-DVD)? exists free tools or other comercial progs like 'DTS-HD Master Audio Suite'?

thx.

ACrowley
4th May 2008, 12:40
how to make (6x mono-wave to) a DDplus or DTSHD track (for HD-DVD)? exists free tools or other comercial progs like 'DTS-HD Master Audio Suite'?

thx.

simply no

7saigon5
26th August 2009, 17:16
You can make DTSHD High resolution audio by using DTS pro series encoder(now upgrade to DTS surround audio suite) software from www.dts.com

tebasuna51
26th August 2009, 19:55
Yes, you can buy DTS-HD Master Audio Suite v2.0 Total: $1,495.00 Excluding Tax & Shipping
to make lossless audio or use Flac for free.

Flac is also more efficient:
sample.wav 40673348 bytes (uncompressed)
sample.dtshd 21022468 bytes 51.7%
sample.flac 18656007 bytes 45.9%

Claim for mkv and flac support in hardware players.

Seraphic-
26th August 2009, 23:57
Don't mean to go off topic here, but it always amazes me how a company thinks people will spend $1,495.00 for software. How many people do they think have that kind of money? Now if they dropped the price to say $250 or $500, normal budget people could/would buy it. Sure they won't make $1,500 per sale, but it would add up to more sales in the long run as more people would buy.

Gokumon
27th August 2009, 06:15
Don't mean to go off topic here, but it always amazes me how a company thinks people will spend $1,495.00 for software. How many people do they think have that kind of money? Now if they dropped the price to say $250 or $500, normal budget people could/would buy it. Sure they won't make $1,500 per sale, but it would add up to more sales in the long run as more people would buy.

The DTS encoder is a professional tool not a consumer-level product. And at the level that they sell, 1500 dollars for a piece of software is chump change.

Biggiesized
27th August 2009, 07:26
Isn't Dolby's TrueHD encoder something like $8000? LOL

I can see why lots of studios/post houses are moving to DTS-HD MA releases.

Ghitulescu
27th August 2009, 08:10
Don't mean to go off topic here, but it always amazes me how a company thinks people will spend $1,495.00 for software. How many people do they think have that kind of money? Now if they dropped the price to say $250 or $500, normal budget people could/would buy it. Sure they won't make $1,500 per sale, but it would add up to more sales in the long run as more people would buy.

Well, they don't want to sell this to you.

To explain this in detail would require advanced marketing knowledge. What you should bear in mind is that there are two markets here, one for the "stupid consumer" (sorry, I have to use this because sadly enough it's true), the other one for professionals. An AC-3 DD2.0 encoder could run for as low as 20€ (part of packages, upgrades, plugins etc.), if you want 2.1 or more you have to pay at least 10x more. The same goes for DVD authoring software, you can have a decent one for 50€, but if you want 2 audio tracks and/or subtitles be prepared to spend 500€ or more.

Not because it's more difficult to add another stream by multiplexing, or requires extremely heavy programming, not at all, the normal user is forced to stay where they think s/he must stay. S/he normally doesn't have access to subtitles (unless you "pirated" a DVD/BD), you can't have more than 1 audio track (again beware pirates ;)!) and so on. Except for a few cases (some HD camcorders can record 5.1, but as usual, you have to use the accompanying software), the normal consumer has no multiple audio and/or channels (MiniDV is an exception as it allows 4 channels, but you can use only 2 of them).

That's why I'm always laughing when I see advertisments for 20€ USB capture cards: "Create Hollywood-like movies: just plug-in and press Play".

Blue_MiSfit
27th August 2009, 08:16
Yes, Dolby's TrueHD encoders are very expensive, as are their DD+ encoders. At one point I was considering a DP-600c, which is a rack-mounted PC with 8 cores, lots of RAM, and some RAIDed drives, running a proprietary Linux setup. It works by monitoring network shares, and automatically using rules set for these "watch" folders to encode output files, and save them to another network share.

It's a nice little product, and does a great job of encoding DD+ and AC3 from various pro and standard formats, and it can be custom tooled to almost any professional workflow.

That being said, I had a hard time telling the difference between a 5.1ch DD+ file encoded at 256kbps by this and a 384kbps AC3 file encoded by Aften... for free :)

Oh yeah - the DP-600c is something like $20k.

Still, it certainly has its purposes!

For the average video enthusiast, the open-source tools are certainly more than adequate. You just need to clearly identify your goal, and pick the software that can accomplish it.

I'm curious, you mention HD-DVD, but that's a completely dead format! What exactly are you trying to accomplish? If you're referring to HD content on a DVD5 or DVD9 disc (AVCHD), you will probably be more than happy with Aften's AC3 output at 640kbps. It's not "high resolution", but that's mostly not important. Good dithering / noise shaping can take a 96KHz master down to 48KHz very nicely!

~MiSfit