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EuropeanMan
1st May 2008, 04:33
Movie running time: ~ 138 minutes
Original size for Movie alone (~ 4500MB-4600MB from the DVD9) - this included video data, audio of 448kbps DD5.1 (441MB) & i think 7 or 8 subtitles...

Is it MATHEMATICALLY POSSIBLE or POSSIBLE PERIOD, to use 7507 bitrate in CCE and then arrive in the end with a little over 5GB of movie .vobs (video, audio & the same 7 or 8 subtitles)....

because from MY calculations from CCE...or rather what CCE gives below...shouldn't VIDEO data be nearly 7GB by ITSELF? just need a confirmation please...thanks

or is there some other MAGICAL process that 7507 bitrate can be compressed into THAT SMALL of a DVD size (NTSC)? thanks...

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manono
1st May 2008, 10:54
Is it MATHEMATICALLY POSSIBLE or POSSIBLE PERIOD, to use 7507 bitrate in CCE and then arrive in the end with a little over 5GB of movie .vobs (video, audio & the same 7 or 8 subtitles)....
No. You'll get 7410 MB of video alone for a 138 minute long movie using that bitrate.

You should probably be using KiB or MiB if using CCE as a bitrate calculator.

EuropeanMan
1st May 2008, 11:37
^ therefore in the end after CCEing...one should use maybe a bitrate viewer to determine final BITRATE?

PhillipWyllie
2nd May 2008, 01:32
Where you getting 7507kbps from? From my calculations the original video has an average bit-rate of 4551kbps. Although CCE is very good at producing output at the desired average bit-rate there are some cases where it doesn't. It all depends on your source material. If the footage doesn't have the need for high bit-rates, CEE won't assign unnecessary bits. An example would be a horror movie that is mostly shot at night.

45tripp
2nd May 2008, 18:39
^ therefore in the end after CCEing...one should use maybe a bitrate viewer to determine final BITRATE?

no.

you can determine well enough beforehand,
using just cce even if you want.

or a calc like this:
http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm

you've misssed that:
-bitrate is analogous to filesize-
check the bottom of the linked page for the formula.

Movie running time: ~ 138 minutes
Is it MATHEMATICALLY POSSIBLE or POSSIBLE PERIOD, to use 7507 bitrate in CCE and then arrive in the end with a little over 5GB of movie .vobs

no,
it's mathematically impossible.

Guest
2nd May 2008, 18:46
Please fix your thread title, EuropeanMan.