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elgan123
13th January 2002, 21:44
Title says pretty much everything.

I remember some people saying that they had use program xxx to give a quality (0-100) of their divx movies. Looking at the download page didn't help me...maybe I missed something there. ;)

Which program was this and where can I download it?

Thanks.

elgan123

manono
13th January 2002, 22:10
Hi elgan123-
You don't need to download anything. Just open your .avi in Nandub, and then go File-File Information-DivX Quality, and wait a minute or so for the results.

elgan123
13th January 2002, 22:52
thanks manono!

i guess that'll teach me to be more patient. i've probably looked at that 'file information' page in nandub 500 times and i never waited long enough to see any of the keyframe info or quality. :rolleyes:

while we are on this topic though i have 2 more questions:

1. What 'divx quality (0-100)' do you people strive for for 1 CD or 2 CD?

2. Is there an information page somewhere that tells me exactly what nandub looks for when determining quality (0-100)?

elgan123

manono
14th January 2002, 04:33
Hi Again-

I know nothing about it, but have been able to infer some things (or maybe just made them up). The number presented is usually within a point or two of the 2nd Pass Compared To First Pass given in Percentages in GKnot after your first pass. So I would guess that it is figuring an average DRF, and then dividing it into DRF 2 (so if the DRFs averaged throughout the movie=3, then DivX Quality=66.667). If that's true, then what you're looking for is the same as what you're looking for in GKnot (65-75=Good Quality-higher, use higher resolution-lower, use lower resolution, or be prepared for some problem scenes maybe).

But that's just an educated (or maybe uneducated) guess, and I too would appreciate some clarification (confirmation would be nice, but even contradiction will do-in the interest in gaining knowledge).

TheWEF
14th January 2002, 06:07
Originally posted by manono
So I would guess that it is figuring an average DRF, and then dividing it into DRF 2 (so if the DRFs averaged throughout the movie=3, then DivX Quality=66.667).

correct.

Originally posted by manono
If that's true, then what you're looking for is the same as what you're looking for in GKnot (65-75=Good Quality-higher, use higher resolution-lower, use lower resolution, or be prepared for some problem scenes maybe).

yes, but percentage in gknot is not 100% the same. double quantizer does not always mean halve the filesize.

wef.

manono
14th January 2002, 08:25
Thanks WEF-glad to know I didn't say anything truly stupid this time :)

FactorM
14th January 2002, 09:26
If i open my movies in nandub, i wait some minutes but i don't get and quality information.

El-LoCo
14th January 2002, 09:32
Mine came preinstalled when I was produced. Even got two of them. And my parents where nice enough to go for the extras package so i can even close them at will and look around with them.

Sorry, but no program can tell you about the REAL quality, only stuff that's really nothing but mubmo jumbo.

manono
14th January 2002, 12:46
Factor M-
I only make DivX 3 movies, and it works fine for them. I don't know if it works on DivX 4 movies (I guess it won't). Are you making DivX 4 movies?

El-LoCo-
Cute, but very subjective. What looks good to one may not look good to another. This is, as far as I know, the only objective way to judge movie quality. Of course it's not perfect, but it's far from mubmo jumbo .

elgan123
14th January 2002, 15:57
Knowing the average DRF is mumbo jumbo? I agree it's only a number...but it will give you some indication of how the rip will look won't it?

I checked a bunch of rips that I did recently and they range in quality from 85.5 (2 CD 'Alien' rip with AC3 sound that looks amazing) to 45.7 (1 CD 'Fists of Fury' from a REALLY noisy source that looks, well, noisy.)

It looks to me that anything with quality > 60 looks very good. Does anyone want to comment on this?


Originally posted by manono
I only make DivX 3 movies, and it works fine for them. I don't know if it works on DivX 4 movies (I guess it won't). Are you making DivX 4 movies?[/I] .

I checked and Nandub only gives a quality (0-100) for divx 3.11.