frames on main site

[dstarfire]

Could we remove the frameset from the guides and download page? Or at least have a "printer-friendly" version that omits the frames?

The frames cause problems if you save a guide for later review offline. Attempting to open any of these pages while offline simply produces an error message about doom9.org being unavailable.

Finally, since they don't seem to produce any direct benefit for the site there's nothing to balance out they annoyance factor they create.

[Doom9]

Why would you need to print out the download page?

And don't forget about all the not so nice people out there that try to open some of my documents in their own frameset - that's why the javascript is there (and so don't go make any hasty presumptions next time). There's are other reasons to use frames: if you had everything on one page, every page would need to hold the contents of the top and left frame as well, which would make page creation more bothersome and which would increase the bandwidth requirements for the site (as it is, top.html and right.html are loaded just once no matter which page you visit.. if you have that content on every page, it has to be loaded for every page).
But, there's a way how you can save just a frame - if you use firefox, right click within the frame you want to save, select "This frame", then "Save frame as". This only takes one click more than saving a frameless page - and yes, it keeps the stylesheet and pictures (I tried).

[dstarfire]

The problem with serving the frames via a javascript is that it breaks firefox's 'show only this frame' feature.

While I can disable that script with an extension, any saved file still tries to call the script, and produces the 'we can't find that page' error.

Anyways, I'm pointing out an easily-fixed annoyance. Obviously it's not annoying enough to give up on the site (given the lack of an equivalent alternative).

[smok3]

dstartfire, open the htm with notepad, delete a line that loads js:

<script type="text/javascript" src="dvd2svcd_files/frameset.js"></script>

and save back, you should be fine.