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AlanHK
13th March 2008, 14:26
I have an AVI file with a mono soundtrack that I want to author to DVD.

I make the AC3 soundtrack by piping the audio from an AVS into Aften, at a bitrate of 128 kb.

for %%I in (%1) do (
wavi %%I - | p:\aften\aften.exe -b 128 -s 1 -w 45 -dnorm 27 - %%~nI.ac3)

That gave me an AC3 file size 88 MB.

I was concerned my authoring software might not handle mono gracefully, so I added this line to the AVS:

MonoToStereo(last,last)

Then running exactly the same command gave me a (stereo) AC3 file, also 88 MB.

Though I can't hear a difference, I assume that the quality is actually lower for the stereo file. Is that correct? Is it true that each track is effectively 64 kb rate, or is it more complex?

Southstorm
13th March 2008, 14:34
Since it started as a mono clip, and has no stereo shaping to it, I doubt you're really loosing anything. The files are both 88mb because the bitrate didn't change. You are correct in assuming that each track L/R is now 64kb in stereo. If you can't hear any diiference, I'd go for it.

AlanHK
13th March 2008, 16:46
OK, thanks.

tebasuna51
13th March 2008, 16:48
Though I can't hear a difference, I assume that the quality is actually lower for the stereo file. Is that correct? Is it true that each track is effectively 64 kb rate, or is it more complex?
A little bit more complex. See this Aften parameter:
[-m #] Stereo rematrixing
0 = independent L+R channels
1 = mid/side rematrixing (default)

If you use -m 0, then each track is 64 kb rate, but the default is use "mid/side rematrixing" and with two exact channels the bitrate can be near 128 Kb for the "mid" (common) part.

AlanHK
14th March 2008, 04:15
If you use -m 0, then each track is 64 kb rate, but the default is use "mid/side rematrixing" and with two exact channels the bitrate can be near 128 Kb for the "mid" (common) part.

Good. I was hoping something intelligent like that was going on. So I wasn't wrong on thinking there was little difference in quality.