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Blue_MiSfit
11th March 2008, 00:18
Hey folks,

So, I've got a tricky one today.

Here's an unprocessed M2V source:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TZNRVEUS

Upon first inspection it looks like vanilla 3:2 pulldown. We've got 3 clean progressive frames, followed by two combed frames.

Standard TFM().TDecimate() with either order=1 or order=0 results in a real mess - with every fourth frame showing combing, and something that looks more serious. This pattern is mostly consistent, but not totally. Sometimes I see 2, 3 or even 4 combed frames in a row.

I did SeparateFields() and had a look, and to my surprise some of the individual fields have combing! I've never seen this before.

Ideas on how to fix? Or, is this a lost cause? If so, I can possibly get my hands on a better source.

Thanks!

~MiSfit

scharfis_brain
11th March 2008, 00:55
get another source.

causes:
1) progressive resizing on an hard telecined source
(probably converted 16x9 letterboxed to 16x9 anamorphic)
2) progressive encoding

so the one who did this was dumb and blind.

Guest
11th March 2008, 00:56
I can possibly get my hands on a better source. Where did you get this source?

Blue_MiSfit
11th March 2008, 01:20
so the one who did this was dumb and blind.


I couldn't agree more. I've been getting a lot of stuff like this recently.

@ Neuron2:

My work takes content from studios and encodes it for internet based delivery. We have license agreements with all the major studios. Unfortunately, they deliver content to us in MPEG-2 format, and it's frequently (foolishly) processed by whatever lame encoding house they choose to use for this service. We can request a better copy.

Thanks guys!

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~MiSfit

Guest
11th March 2008, 01:59
My work takes content from studios and encodes it for internet based delivery. You do this work professionally and you can't recognize improper resizing?

Just saying... :)

Blue_MiSfit
11th March 2008, 02:02
Touche! We're not all masters though :(

I figured it was progressive resizing of interlaced content, but I just wanted to make sure there was no fancy-pants trick that could fix it. The turn-around on getting a new source can be pretty significant.

Besides, I just started today! I'm trying to turn this hobby of mine into something that can pay the bills.

Thanks again gentlemen

Guest
11th March 2008, 02:32
I make silly mistakes quite often. Scharfi usually corrects me. :p