Is there any particular reason why Seesaw typicially isn't used on anime/cartoons?

[mahsah]

When I use it, it seems to sharpen fairly well without creating halos like limitedsharpenfaster. Why isn't it used more often then? Is there a big reason not to use it that I should know about?

[TheRyuu]

When I use it, it seems to sharpen fairly well without creating halos like limitedsharpenfaster. Why isn't it used more often then? Is there a big reason not to use it that I should know about?

From what I can tell it makes halos just as much and seems to amplify noise, especially in static area's (dark area's too) much more then LSF.

In my personal opinion, LSF is still king when it comes to sharpening anime.
And SeeSaw can't do what smode=3 in LSF can either ;)

[mahsah]

Huh. What settings would you recommend for LSF that wouldn't cause haloing? I am OCD about halos.

[mahsah]

Should I use soothe with LSF?

[El Bastardo]

Good topic exactly the topic I'm on at the moment.

To update my "Avisynth frameserving"-script for anime optimization in real time.

I'm using ffdshow for deinterlacing, Postporcessing and resizing and the avisynth tap.
In there I'm using LimitedSharpenFaster together with soothe (and the MT plugin).

Up to now I really did not see any advantages or disadvantages using soothe but it would help if anyone could explain what it exctly really does and if it's good together with LSF for anime or not?!

[TheRyuu]

Up to now I really did not see any advantages or disadvantages using soothe but it would help if anyone could explain what it exctly really does

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=99679

[El Bastardo]

So considering these infos soothe is "a must" (very much recommended) with a sharpener.

But reading this I'm not sure if my parameters are good (adequate) because of the advice that soothe "steals" sharpening.

Currently I am running this (for realtime frame serving while watching Anime):
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MT( "dull = last
sharp = dull.LimitedSharpenFaster( ss_x=1.5, ss_y=1.5, Smode=3, strength=200, overshoot=1, undershoot=1 )
Soothe( sharp, dull, 20 )", 4 )
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MT is for multi threading (4 threads because of a quad core CPU).


My questions:
1. Is it a good idea to MT the whole thing (I mean soothe AND LSF) of would it be better to just MT the LSF part or maybe use MT two times around LSF and Soothe seperately??
2. is the strengh of 200 for LSF good enough or too much or too low for Anime (considering Soothe)??

[Chainmax]

From what I can tell it makes halos just as much and seems to amplify noise, especially in static area's (dark area's too) much more then LSF.

In my personal opinion, LSF is still king when it comes to sharpening anime.
And SeeSaw can't do what smode=3 in LSF can either ;)

Do you prefer SMode=3 to SMode=4? What differences do you see between them?

[martino]

Huh. What settings would you recommend for LSF that wouldn't cause haloing? I am OCD about halos.
In that case you might want to take a look at supersampling XSharpen. May not sharpen background detail that much, but it won't make such strong halos.