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click2
14th February 2008, 21:45
I have this movie here. it's 804mb, which means i can't burn the .avi file onto a disc as i usually do with my rips.

Mediainfo reports that the file is a Mode 2 / CDXA image. None of my conversion efforts or .cue alignment seem to make it burn or mount correctly, however.

Media player classic reports that the video is MPEG [352x288 @ 25fps], with a 96Kbps audio stream, all in a nondescript avi container. There's also a DVD subpicture stream, but no evidence of it's use throughout the film.

Between these two sources i am uncannily reminded of vcd-type formats. Does anyone have any suggestions as to this file's proper burning process?

(my possible alternatives are burning it onto a dvd, or recoding to dvd, or splitting the avi into multiple cd-compatible portions.)

setarip_old
14th February 2008, 22:23
Hi!I have this movie here. it's 804mb...Mediainfo reports that the file is a Mode 2 / CDXA image.1) What software and procedures did you use to create this file?

2) Load the file into GSpot and post a screen capture back here...

click2
14th February 2008, 22:41
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7871/gspotcdxazs8.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gspotcdxazs8.jpg)

i had a local store produce this from my old tapes; god knows what they were doing exactly. gspot seems to reinforce the idea that it's a vcd, which is great except it's still in an .avi container..

setarip_old
15th February 2008, 00:06
i had a local store produce this from my old tapesI'll respond, because I'm comfortable that the moderators will find your explanation indicates that you're not asking a question that would be a violation of Rule #6.

1) Why don't you ask the folks at your local store to tell you exactly what they did?

2) Gspot is only indicating that the dimensions are compatible with those of a VCD

3) The indicated bitrate is FAR in excess of that of a VCD

4) The file is simply a PAL-format MPEG-1 (with pathetic audio)

5) Just change the extender from ".AVI" to ".MPG"

click2
15th February 2008, 00:14
i'll go in on monday to ask. i presume, as the bitrate is too large for a vcd there's no way this can be burnt as one in its current state?

brief rant about rule 6; although this film isn't illicit, denying help to people just because their files are pirated is futile. when someone searches the forum for help with the same problem with a legal film, the solution is consequently unavailable. tl;dr Bad

setarip_old
15th February 2008, 01:26
brief rant about rule 6; although this film isn't illicit, denying help to people just because their files are pirated is futile. when someone searches the forum for help with the same problem with a legal film, the solution is consequently unavailable. tl;dr BadAs a member, I'm subject to the same rules as you are - which we agreed to when we applied for membership...

BTW - Rule #6 is intended to protect "Doom9" and the "Forum"...

Guest
15th February 2008, 01:30
When a person with the same problem *and* a legit file posts, he will get help and then the issue will be documented.

But usually the legit guy encodes from an original purchased DVD and not from some already encoded stream that was gotten on the internet, so that's why you seldom see the same problems posted by legit stream owners.

evilclive
15th February 2008, 16:37
Just a few points about the Gspot screen, which I'm offering in an attempt to clarify my own understanding of the MPEG-1 format:

GSpot says the video file is 2 hours, 12 minutes, 38 seconds long, which equals 198,950 frames at 25 fps. The quoted file size of 843,979,964 bytes corresponds to an average of 4,242 bytes per frame -- multiply this by 8 (bits per byte) times 25 (frames per second), and you get an average bit rate of 828 kbit per second. This is made up of 725 kbps video, 96 kbps audio, and the rest is the standard overhead from MPEG-1 multiplexing.

Compare this with a standard video and audio bit rate of 1150 kbits/s and 224 kbit/s respectively for video-CD files.

Even if you were to rename the file from *.avi to *.mpg, and burn it in mode 2 form 2 (http://www.doom9.org/xcd.htm) (using Nero or another suitable program), it still wouldn't work in a standalone DVD player, because of that non-standard (and hopelessly low) variable bit rate.

If the professional company who converted your home VHS tapes knew what they were doing, they would probably have used a more modern and efficient codec like DivX or Xvid: even then, they would be unwise to try and squeeze that much video footage only less than two CDRs.

My conclusion: demand your money back.

click2
15th February 2008, 22:22
well, i'm glad to have the tapes in another media, at least. i will talk to them about it on monday, though.

i've burnt a test (mode 2/form 2 as .mpg in nero) and it seems to play fine in my computer, despite not being standards-compliant. this pretty much solves the problem, as i usually play movies through my computer anyways. thanks everyone

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