Cce & Svcd

[Sammyko]

Hi there,

I've got a (problem) question for you.
I've just started to try CCE (standalone) to convert some of my AVI-files captured from my digital-video camera.

I was quite pleased with the final results (looks even better than TMPEG outputs for the same files)...
but when I've tried to create menues with the Nero or Ulead DVD movie factory I've realized (with the help of the above mentioned programmes) that resolution of the output *.mpeg files from CCE is 720x576 which is as you know not the "specs" for SVCD (480x576).

My question: is there a way to change this? Any workarounds?
How can I make the final *.mpeg files be of 480x576?


Help me. I'm a newbie.


Sam.

[waldok]

Hi Sammyko,

Hmmmmm...quite strange, I never noticed this myself, I mean, the output MPEG file from CCE is really 480x576. Maybe it's DVD movie Factory that's wrong about it ?
What tool provided this resolution information ?

Waldok:cool:

[ritmo2k]

CCE will encode at what ever you feed it.
It is not like tmpg, where it will make the right stream for you automatically. You need to use avisynth scripts, or any of the numorous methodes to encode it right. You have to actually tell it explicitly some how to do it. Post your actuall process and techniques. We can then help...

HTH,

[gldblade]

If you frameserved directly from DVD2AVI with VFAPI, maybe you forgot to resize...

[ritmo2k]

I used to use vfapi, but found its way slower then using mpeg2dec.dll plugin, thats why I am learning avs more. AFAIK I think it does a better job. The less I have to process the media, the better the qual is I would imagine. Plus, who hates faster!

[Sammyko]

This is what I've done:
1.captured video from digital video camera into Studio7.
2.edit it
3."made movie" as AVI-file because I didn't like the quality of the Studio's MPEG2 encoding and wanted to use external programme (TMPEG or CCE).Unfortunately, Studio didn't (doesn't) let me to change default resolution (720x576)to 480x576. So I stuck with it.
4.I've used TMPEG (good quality, no complaints). Then I've tried the CCE 2.62. And for the same footage I can see slight difference for better from CCE. Unfortunately, because it takes 720x576 as an input the output also the same.

So, how can I bypass this problem. I'd like to ask you, guys -
in your answers (if any) could you be, please, more specific - step by step (sort off). Because I'm a newbie and didn't use most of these programmes (yet).

Thank you very much in advance.


Sammy.

[Yakumo]

:D Just load the avi file that you made in virtual dub. Load the resize filter and then resize your avi to 480X576(pal) of 480x480 (ntsc) Use precise bilinear as filter mode. Then change to full processing mode and save your avi file wiht huffyuv v2.1.1 ccesp patcht as compression. Now you have change the resulution to standard svcd, so nero will accept your file that cce make.
There is another way. Load your avi in tmpeg. Rezise it to 480X576.
Then save it as a project. Convert the project that you made with tmpeg with vpapiconv. It will make a avi file. Don't forget to uncheck the audio box in vpapiconv or you will get a very large file. If you do it correct the avi file will only be a couple of mb big.
Now start cce and load the avi file that you made with vpapiconv. That's is al. Hope this will help.

Greetz, Yakumo

[Sammyko]

If I'll uncheck the "audio"box how do I get audio in the final (from CCE)file? Please, explain...


Sam.

[ritmo2k]

I dont wanna step on any ones toes, but there is a faster, and simpler way to do it! use an avs script with your avi from your dv cam.

All you need is say:
"cmd to load"
BiCubicResize(480,360,0.00,0.75)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)

My buddy always uses widescreen on his cam(720x480), and this would be all that is needed to encode it directly in cce. Fast as hell, I always get better then 1:1 speeds. Uncheck the audio, then use the re-encoded audio file you striped from the avi. You caould extract it in virtual dub, then use tmpg or something(its easy!). There may be better ways, someone can suggest if they know, but doing the vid this way is way faster and better in my opinion.

Lurke around in the avs forum if you cant figure the script, its worth it. Avisynth just kicks ass on all the rest!

HTH,

[Yakumo]

Don't know if you still want to know how to make the audio, but here it goes. Start virtual dub. Load your capture avi file. Under audio use full processing mode. Use conversion and select the follewing options 44100Hz and Hight quality. Now save the wav file. Now the audio is standaard wav. Now start tmpeg and load uner audio source your wav file. Check the setting, make sure the stream type is MPeg-1 audio layer 2, sampling freguency is 41000Hz, channel mode is stereo and the bitrate 224kbit/s.
Last step is to mux your audio stream and video stream together. I think the best way to do it is by using bbmpeg.
This is the long way, but I like doing it so. because it workes for me. Have tried other method, but this way it is always save for me :)

Greetz, Yakumo:)