Hello DVD quality rips on 1CD?

[Emp3r0r]

Taken from Toms Hardware News
CES: TDK’s 2GB Multi-Mode CD/ML Burner
If the 650 MB of data you can store on a CD-R seems a little confining, but the price of a DVD-RAM drive and its accompanying media seem just a little too expensive, TDK may have an answer for you. The company just let us know that it has developed a CD-RW burner capable of packing 2GB of uncompressed data on the company’s CD-R/RW discs. The new drive incorporates a MultiLevel (ML) read/write chip that adds a 2GB “super-size” mode to its standard CD-R/RW recording capability when used with TDK ML-R (write once) or ML-RW (rewritable) discs. The internal drive is rated at 36X/24X/40X in ML mode, which TDK says lets you archive 2GB of data in less than six minutes. It’s Windows XP compatible and will be priced at around $199 when it is released in the second quarter of this year. 2GB TDK Certified Plus ML-R and ML-RW discs will be available when the drive hits the streets, and will be available at estimated street prices of $1.99 and $2.99, respectively.


Hey this looks promising, but they better rush the availability and drop the prices a little bit more. Imagine what your rips would look like with all that space! Finally Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan on one disc.

[Olleman]

I don't really see the point in this. Ok the drive is much cheaper then the Pioneer DVD-r drive. But a 2gb TDK CD-r costs almost as much as a DVD-r disc, and those prices will fall heavily this year. (or so I think anyway :))

Regards, Olle

[Doom9]

does anybody remember the 1.3gb sony CD recordables? Do they still exist? Nobody is talking about it and I don't think this new format will have a different fate. Compatibility is the problem here. Only special drives can read them. Most DVD drives can read DVD-Rs and DVD+RWs and that's what will make the difference in the end. It may take a while for the recorder prices to get close to todays CD burners but that's where it's gonna go.

[Bugs Bunny]

I'm following the DVD news from CES as well. I don't really have a pref (although the DVD+RW format is more PC friendly), just looking for low cost and cheap media. Last December prices dropped to $400 drive units, so I'm SWAG'ing that they'll reach the 250-300 mark by 3Q02, at which time I'll boi one.

Then next step after that is waiting for the recordable media to drop to about a buck a platter, then I will dispense with all this MPEG4 stuff and just use something like IFOEdit and an ISO burner prog to move vids to recordables. I think that'll be the next in-demand shtick, is DVD rip/edit/reburn. The MPEG4 thing is OK, but once the media gets cheap enough, then the time spent in transcoding just isn't worth it--not to mention DivX is gonna be limited to PC viewing only.

[kdiddy]

Im with Doom on this one..will my standalone player and other existing CDR/RW capable devices be able to read this type of media, or will one be confined to only this type drive. I think at this stage of the game, with DVD media having a higher chance of compatibility also with more storage space thrown in.

EDITED:
Well after searching I found this

"As a supplier of all three types of optical recording hardware and media - CD, ML, and DVD - we see each as complementary, not competitive. For video storage and playback compatibility with DVD-ROM and DVD Video, recordable DVD is the way to go. And for universal exchange capability, CD is the obvious choice."
http://www.datastorex.com/content/archived-news.asp?smonth=1&syear=2002&recid=1295&type=4&srchnews=TDK

That says it all to me about which format I should buy, because Im only concern with video, not archiving data.

[Doom9]

though I don't think that mpeg-4 will just die.. swapping 4.7gb or 700mb over the internet still makes a difference ;) Of course, we all only backup the movies we legally own but you know what I mean.

and not every pc is DVD compatible (though non compatible ones will slowly die out). and let's not forget that ifoedit will need a shitload of work to make the process as easy as dvd->divx

[LotionBoy]

http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0-1095-404-5614619.html

It writes CD-R and DD-R which is kinda nice. A little slow in terms of recording speed. Media is 2 bucks, which ain't bad, but is more than 2 CDs. Much more interesting is the new ML technology from TDK. Street prices are about the same as the DD-CD from sony, but the disks hold 2GB and the thing burns at 36x (damn). There has been some talk of bringing the ML technology to DVD, which would probably up DVD storage to something like 25GB a side.

LotionBoy

[Mozart]

does anybody remember the 1.3gb sony CD recordables? Do they still exist? Nobody is talking about it and I don't think this new format will have a different fate.

It seems that this is not the same thing. The proprietary of ML-technology claims that "the difference between a normal CD-R burner and a ML-burner/reader is one chipset, integrated directly onto existing on-board electronics at minimum cost". It claims also that "MultiLevel discs can be mastered and manufactured the same way as other optical discs. Manufacturers only need to make minor modifications of existing disc media formulations for writable discs and ROM manufacturing equipment to produce MultiLevel discs. Thus, The cost of adding Calimetrics (http://www.calimetrics.com/Technology/ReadOnly/readonly.html)' technology to the disc for the consumer electronics and computer markets is very low."

In that homepage, there are also some tecnical informations about this technology.