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ministrix
4th January 2008, 21:18
Hello!
I got this anime which i cant decimate the right way.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PQBB3HNV
Like sometimes when people in front of the picture are moving and the same happens in the background, they move in every other frame (frame1 people in foreground move, frame2 people in background move and so on...). Im not used to encode anime but i understand they can b very hard to get right so i wonder if anyone got any suggestions?
TheRyuu
5th January 2008, 04:19
I tried a simple:
tfm(d2v="E:\Doom9\girlie.demuxed.d2v").tdecimate()
and it seemed to work fine.
ministrix
5th January 2008, 10:37
hm. i still get some dupeframes with that one. and i think there something weird with the guy on the cycle. Why is he moving in every frame and the boy running only move in every second frame. Heres another example where they throw ball to each other http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E8W2FT9V. In some frames the ball is moving and in others the people. I dunno how they make animes but it seems a bit odd to me if its done in this way.
mp3dom
5th January 2008, 22:28
No problem to me too with tdecimate on the second clip. If you watch with the 'display=true' in TDecimate you will notice that the decimation occour only on real duplicated frames. There are still some 'dups' but this is because in the original clip (without decimation) there are some frames repeated 3 times.
ministrix
6th January 2008, 14:13
so its a badly encoded dvd? Still i would like to get rid of those dupes from original clip. They wasnt suppose to be there, was they? And i wonder how this can happen? CJ Entertainment of Korea is the company responsible. And also the movement with the ball and the people throwing. Is this normal for anime?
mp3dom
6th January 2008, 14:43
I think it's all right. It's not 'CJ Ent.' dependant because the japanese dvd is the same. Probably (not sure) some scenes/characters/backgrounds are animated at a lower frame rate, repeating some frames in 'near to static scenes' to comply with NTSC Film framerate. It's quite common in anime. Anyway the decimated clip is smooth during playback so I think it's ok.
foxyshadis
6th January 2008, 20:46
It just means anime animation is slowly evolving, now that the use of CG lets them composite frames in less traditional ways. Tokikake was a big-budget movie, it makes sense.
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