odd burning issue

[noremacyug]

ok, so i have a samsung sh-s182m dvd burner. i originally picked up a spindle of tdk 16x lightscribe dvd+r. i burned all 20 or 30 (how many ever where on the spindle). with only maybe 1 or 2 coasters produced.

anyhow, the next go round i got a same sized spindle of hp lightscribe 16x dvd+r. i burnt a few of them with no probs and then between yesterday and today i ended up with 4 or 5 coasters in a row. also, the drive seemed to struggle reading the discs. for instance, if i rebooted and had a disc in the drive it would cause xp to hang and take a long time to boot. but if i ejected the disc it would operate at the normal speed. i also tried some sony dvd rw that also caused severe system lag.

i already had the most recent release of firmware for the drive, but went on and reflashed it again to see if it had any effect, it didn't. i rebooted multiple times, stopped multitasking, and uninstalled/reinstalled the drive. nothing seemed to have any effect on it.

anyhow, i decided i was gonna keep trying and either get a disc to burn or end up with the rest of the spindle as coasters and be done with it. the very next disc i put in burned perfectly via nero. so i decided to try it from a different program to see if it would also be successful. i used 1 click dvd to burn an image i had mounted with no probs and continued to do a couple more with zero probs.

sorry bout the novel, but my question is now what do you guys think could have cause the 4-5 coasters when the first bunch and the last few i've done have worked perfectly. is it possible that i just had a bad streak of them? is that a regular occurrence? in my years of burning it's been pretty rare that i ever get coasters and certainly not 5 in a row. you guys think it was the media, my computer or the drive itself that is the culprit?

thanks

[CWR03]

There may have been something running that interfered with the data transfer, but without a log file there's no way to be certain. To help avoid such problems in the future you might want to burn at no faster than half the rated speed of the drive or media, whichever is slower.

[noremacyug]

thanks for the reply. i tried cutting it back to 12x and 8x with no avail. i dunno what the issue was, i'll try to make sure to get the log file if it occurs again.

[setarip_old]

Hi!if i rebooted and had a disc in the drive it would cause xp to hang and take a long time to boot. but if i ejected the disc it would operate at the normal speed.That's not unusual at all chances are the boot sequence in your BIOS includes attempting to boot from your CD/DVD drive.

As to having 5 consecutive bad burns, it's quite possible that your spindle simply contained a small batch of problematic discs...

[Hittz]

A few times in the past I have burned my authored projects (movies) to dvd to find that certain seens were repeated, for ex. 20 minutes into the movie it might go back to the 5 minute mark and I would think," I saw this part already". What would cause such a result when burning a dvd? The software I use is virtualdub mod, avisynth, Fitcd, CCE SP2.70, DVDLab Pro, and I burn my dvd's using Nero 6.

[blutach]

Lousy/scratched media.

Regards

[noremacyug]

ok, so i went out and bought a spindle of the previously used tdk lightscribe media that gave me no problems before. and the first one i used ended up being a coaster. any way to narrow down whether this is software, media or hardware related?

[noremacyug]

Hi!That's not unusual at all chances are the boot sequence in your BIOS includes attempting to boot from your CD/DVD drive.

As to having 5 consecutive bad burns, it's quite possible that your spindle simply contained a small batch of problematic discs...

yeah, i do have the bios set to check the cd drive, but that doesn't explain the stutter once the o.s. had fully booted. which was more associated with dvd rw's. even after a fresh erase it would just sit there trying to read the dvd.

[setarip_old]

Post the log file (from whatever burning software you used) of this failed burn...

[noremacyug]

Post the log file (from whatever burning software you used) of this failed burn...

i'll try to remember to do so if it fails again. it's been playin nice though the last few times.

[setarip_old]

(Post#3)i'll try to make sure to get the log file if it occurs again.(Post#10)i'll try to remember to do so if it fails again.You seem to be unwilling to, as requested twice, post a log of one of your failed burns. Why?

[noremacyug]

You seem to be unwilling to, as requested twice, post a log of one of your failed burns. Why?

i'm using 1clickdvd as the program. i searched through it's files and see no saved log files. the only way i can get a log file is to enable the log window when burning a disc (which i've done) but as i stated i've not had a bad burn again yet. i tried using a dvd rw and burnt multiple times to attempt to get it fail, but it worked. so, as i said when it fails again i will post the log file. i'm not unwilling to post a log file, i just don't have one to post yet.

[noremacyug]

ok, i went to backup a new movie today and i got another error. so here's the log from 1 click dvd. i had to do a printscreen and then paste to get it cause it doesn't create an actual logfile to my knowledge.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n7/noremacyug/untitled-1.jpg

[blutach]

Check out the 05 section here (http://www.cdr-zone.com/articles/atapi_error_codes_page_1.html) and the fixes below.

In the meantime, throw out your cheap CMC mag blanks and buy some decent Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden blanks and stop trying to burn that rubbish at 16x - lower your burn speed to 8x max.

Regards

[noremacyug]

Check out the 05 section here (http://www.cdr-zone.com/articles/atapi_error_codes_page_1.html) and the fixes below.

In the meantime, throw out your cheap CMC mag blanks and buy some decent Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden blanks and stop trying to burn that rubbish at 16x - lower your burn speed to 8x max.

Regards
do they offer a lightscribe variant of their media? also, whats the difference between cmc and the other type(s)?

[blutach]

I'm pretty sure they do. But this is a backup and it really doesn't have to look terrific - it just has to play terrific.

CMC is junk. Switch to Verbs or TYs.

Regards

[noremacyug]

I'm pretty sure they do. But this is a backup and it really doesn't have to look terrific - it just has to play terrific.

CMC is junk. Switch to Verbs or TYs.

Regards

well, i suppose. but i like them to look good, plus i don't just do backups with them. i also do some home recording stuff every once in a while and love being able to lightscribe on them. anyhow, i'll look into them.

also, i looked at the errors page you linked me to and ended up using aspicheck which revealed (to my understanding) that i have no aspi layer installed. from what i've read and my understanding of it, that's a pretty big problem since that hinders/stops the communication between the program and the drive. i'm going to reinstall nero in hopes that it will reinstall it's aspi layer.

[blutach]

ASPI is not an issue - SPTI is installed.

You can take your pick - continue using rubbishy media that (if it burns at all) will degrade (then you'll have a wonderful looking coaster) or buy good stuff. This is especially necessary for original material produced by you.

Regards

[setarip_old]

@noremacyug

Yes, Verbatim makes Lightscribe burnable DVD media...

[noremacyug]

ok, i'll give the verb or ty's a try when i get around to picking up some new media. and i'm not arguing about the quality difference between the ty/verb and the tdk/hp media i currently have. what i want to know is do you think that the media is solely the issue since i was able to previously burn a 30pk spindle of the tdk with only 1 or 2 coasters at 16x speeds. however, the drive does seem to function fine in every other aspect (reading, lightscribing, cd-rw's, ect.), so i suppose it isn't terribly hard to believe. but i just can't imagine it working near perfect the first go around with a media brand/type and then the next time i only have a 50/50 shot of it working.

[blutach]

There are usually 4 things that affect a burn:

1. Top of the list - crappy media
2. Out of date firmware
3. DMA off on IDE channels
4. Burning too fast on lousy media

You got 1 and 4 nailed right down. Add to this lousy hardware (you're drive is not known to be the best) and you have set yourself up to have a bad time of it. Throw the CMCs out now and keep your hair is my recommendation. And slow the burn down.

but i just can't imagine it working near perfect the first go around with a media brand/type and then the next time i only have a 50/50 shot of it working.Believe me, with poor quality media, it is very hit and miss.

Regards

[noremacyug]

There are usually 4 things that affect a burn:

1. Top of the list - crappy media
2. Out of date firmware
3. DMA off on IDE channels
4. Burning too fast on lousy media

You got 1 and 4 nailed right down. Add to this lousy hardware (you're drive is not known to be the best) and you have set yourself up to have a bad time of it. Throw the CMCs out now and keep your hair is my recommendation. And slow the burn down.

Believe me, with poor quality media, it is very hit and miss.

Regards

much appreciated sir. thanks what/where's the best deal on ty and verb media? and what are cake boxes?

(edit) - one more quick Q that's off topic. any company's producing dual layer lightscribe media yet?