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Dazzler69
20th November 2007, 02:30
I would like to take my DVDshrink files from DVD ripping and remove the top and bottom bars for my HD tv. I have searched options in Nero with no luck. Some Nero guys said to use the crop button but when I recode it the bars come back. I guess I want to make it like a 4:3 that stretches normally in my widescreen tv. I don't and if it looks perfect or not I just want to fill my 42' screen. DVD and tv settings don't help.

Any suggestions?

bigotti5
20th November 2007, 09:39
Not possible without complete reencoding and authoring.
Use zoom on your TV or player.

Dazzler69
20th November 2007, 13:22
Right I am looking to encode it. There should be a way to stretch it.

jshumate
20th November 2007, 20:23
4:3 video doesn't ever "stretch normally" so your whole premise is wrong. I'd advise just using the zoom function too, but if you MUST do this, TMPGenc has some tools for cropping that are pretty easy for newbies to use. The fact that you even want to do this with no thought as to whether or not this is a good idea (it isn't) indicates to me that you should probably use a tool that's easy for newbies to use. Crop to 4:3 full screen and re-encode and then your TV will (shudder!) stretch the image to fill the screen in what you think is "normal stretching".

Dazzler69
21st November 2007, 02:20
Normal, non-widescreen movies in 4:3 always stretch to fill the screen that I have seen and own. But I will try out TMPGenc.

4:3 video doesn't ever "stretch normally" so your whole premise is wrong. I'd advise just using the zoom function too, but if you MUST do this, TMPGenc has some tools for cropping that are pretty easy for newbies to use. The fact that you even want to do this with no thought as to whether or not this is a good idea (it isn't) indicates to me that you should probably use a tool that's easy for newbies to use. Crop to 4:3 full screen and re-encode and then your TV will (shudder!) stretch the image to fill the screen in what you think is "normal stretching".

Video Dude
22nd November 2007, 03:08
4:3 pan & scan movies are not stretched. The left and right sides are chopped off so the picture will fill the screen.

The movie studios have special techniques of framing the video so the main points are centered when they convert a widescreen movie to full frame. If you crop yourself, you risk cutting people or objects out of the scene.

If you stretch a widescreen movie, you will end up with lots of tall skinny distorted looking people.

High end TVs and DVD players have a smart zoom that will fill the screen with less stretch distortion and clipping. If you have one of these features it might be a more pleasing result (and will save you a lot of time and work).

Dazzler69
22nd November 2007, 19:37
Look I have a mobile prog that does it but it's lousy at dvd quality is why I ask. If you have it it's Pocket DVD studio and it has a setting for auto stretch 16:9 widescreen to 4:3. I guess my question is too advanced. Also I did not see a setting for this in TMPgenc. NM. Happy Thanksgiving!

PhillipWyllie
27th November 2007, 09:42
Look I have a mobile prog that does it but it's lousy at dvd quality is why I ask. If you have it it's Pocket DVD studio and it has a setting for auto stretch 16:9 widescreen to 4:3. I guess my question is too advanced. Also I did not see a setting for this in TMPgenc. NM. Happy Thanksgiving!Too advanced my bottom. you need to re-encode the video as the black bars are already in the MPEG-2. Avisynth in conjunction with DGIndex will help you there.

Dazzler69
29th November 2007, 03:47
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/anamorphic185demo.html

Ah ha. I need to figure out how to make my DVD's anamorphic! That's the question! Check out Robin to see what I mean.

setarip_old
29th November 2007, 06:22
Hi!tv settings don't help.It's hard to understand how/why your widescreen TV's "Zoom" function won't allow you to fill the entire screen without "black bars"...

Dazzler69
29th November 2007, 13:19
Hi!It's hard to understand how/why your widescreen TV's "Zoom" function won't allow you to fill the entire screen without "black bars"...

Because it cuts off picture and lowers rez.

setarip_old
29th November 2007, 16:00
I don't and if it looks perfect or not I just want to fill my 42' screenSorry, I thought this statement meant you only cared to fill the entire screen, whether or not "it looks perfect"...