Anamorphic support? (Request for 2.50?)

[Honeyko]

True anamorphic support (i.e., difference PAR and DAR values) is my favorite feature of Handbrake, and one I (perhaps erroneously) think could be easily incorporated into a future version of AGK.

A typical NTSC DVD is encoded 720x480, or 3:2 PAR, and displays at 853x480 DAR (if 16x9). The problem is that it's presently very difficult in AGK to maintain a 480 height if one needs to crop bad edges. Having vertical height as well as horizontal width entry fields, and an output DAR entry field, would solve this. (Naturally it'd also be helpful if an opened source's parameters were read in as defaults for the user.)

[Brother John]

Isn’t this a little outside of AutoGK’s scope? AutoGK is a near-one-click-solution, a very powerful one, but nonetheless a convenient, automated tool for the less savvy user. Those user have no clue about the mess of non-square pixel video and most of them would be mightly confused if they came in contact with it.

[manono]

I agree. In addition, one of its main purposes is to make AVIs suitable for playback in DVD/MPEG-4 players. Although there are a very few now that will honor DAR information in the headers, for the most part they are still expecting 1:1 AVIs.

And if you want to make 720x480 AVIs, it's possible anyway, when using AutoGK, even if you wish to crop. I think. You'll still have to run the resulting AVI through MPEG4Modifier afterwards to set the 16:9 flag.

[Honeyko]

I don't think it's a "one-click" utility at all -- I am always keying F9 to access the goodies (absolutely necessary for cropping, for starters).one of its main purposes is to make AVIs suitable for playback in DVD/MPEG-4 players.And SAP compatability is another thing that's hidden away behind F9. Same with cartoon-mode, FPS regulation, etc.

(Anybody who wants one-click should snag DivX Converter: All you get is a tiny little sucker that you drag/drop a piece of video onto....and that's it. No controls as all.)

I see no reason -- beyond some "this is insanely difficult!" programming issue -- why vertical heights and output DARs could not be incorporated into the F9 goody-list.

[manono]

Hi-
I don't think it's a "one-click" utility at all -- I am always keying F9 to access the goodies (absolutely necessary for cropping, for starters).
I disagree. Plenty of people use it without ever accessing CTRL-F9. It usually crops properly, and that may mean cropping into the video a bit. I mentioned this in your other thread. If you'd like to crop away only the black, and thus create encodes with a slightly off AR, that's your business, but it's not something that should be easily done by the inexperienced.
And SAP compatability is another thing that's hidden away behind F9. Same with cartoon-mode, FPS regulation, etc.
Not if you set it up during the initial install. Then it'll always make the AVIs standalone compliant. Cartoon Mode is a waste of time, in my opinion. And you'd better know damn well what you're doing before messing with the FPS. More likely than not you'll screw things up by changing that one. That's why they're hidden. Partly because only the experienced would even wish for such things to manipulate and partly because the inexperienced can ruin an encode if they don't know what they're doing.
I see no reason -- beyond some "this is insanely difficult!" programming issue -- why vertical heights and output DARs could not be incorporated into the F9 goody-list.
I daresay that the vast majority of people making AVIs, using AutoGK or not, don't want to make them at 720x480 resolution. The fact that you do want this tells me that you have gone beyond AutoGK and should perhaps be doing your encoding manually. Then you can set up your crop, resolution, codec settings, etc., however you like. Does this DivX Converter you're promoting allow for 720x480 encodes with the DAR set for proper playback?

[Honeyko]

1. Cropping black doesn't remove the crummy rows or columns next to the black; virtually all ripped content has such crumminess, and I think it looks horrible.

2. DivX Converter is pure junk; I merely used it as an example of one-click.

3. Cartoon-mode rocks for TVrips and really bad tranfers to MPEG2/VOB on DVD. (You'd be surprised how ultra-crappy the quality of a lot of chilrdren's cartoon DVDs are; if it weren't for TV station-logo spam, I'd settle for a standard cable TVrip almost every time.)

4. Regarding DAR/anamorphic: If I can keep an encode's pixel grid from altering, there will be less quality loss since pixel boundaries aren't shifting across the image. This is particularly important if I want to create an original screen-width capture in which output file size isn't important, but quality level is.

5. What's wrong with adding new features? It's just as easy for a "one-clicker" to ignore twenty features tucked away on F9 as it is for him to ignore ten features.

[Brother John]

You’re complete post and especially point 4 shows that you’re beyond AutoGK’s target audience. Use something else! If this anamorphic feature should be implemented I can almost guarantee you that you’d find another AutoGK limitation a few hours later. It’s simply impossible to have a frontend that’s newbie friendly and all powerful at the same time.

[Honeyko]

F9 ain't the front-end.

[celtic_druid]

I have a cheap some what generic non DivX certified MTK based player and it handles anamorphic content just fine. Can't comment on other players, but you would think quite a lot of them would handle anamorphic content if mine does.

For a one click type app, I would think that a 1:1/anamorphic check box would be the way to go, with the rest automated.

[xzibit3180]

(Anybody who wants one-click should snag DivX Converter: All you get is a tiny little sucker that you drag/drop a piece of video onto....and that's it. No controls as all.)

LMAO. This is the funniest thing I have ever read on here. Its so true what you are sayin. About the tiny liitle Divx box to drag your shyt into. Hhahhahahah.

[xzibit3180]

[QUOTE=Honeyko;1061639](Anybody who wants one-click should snag DivX Converter: All you get is a tiny little sucker that you drag/drop a piece of video onto....and that's it. No controls as all.)QUOTE]

LMAO. This is the funniest thing I have ever read on here. Its so true what you are sayin. About the tiny liitle Divx box to drag your shyt into. Hhahhahahah.

[xzibit3180]

I don't think it's a "one-click" utility at all -- I am always keying F9 to access the goodies (absolutely necessary for cropping, for starters).And SAP compatability is another thing that's hidden away behind F9. Same with cartoon-mode, FPS regulation, etc.

(Anybody who wants one-click should snag DivX Converter: All you get is a tiny little sucker that you drag/drop a piece of video onto....and that's it. No controls as all.)

I see no reason -- beyond some "this is insanely difficult!" programming issue -- why vertical heights and output DARs could not be incorporated into the F9 goody-list.


LMAO. This is the funniest thing I have ever read on here. Its so true what you are sayin. About the tiny liitle Divx box to drag your shyt into. Hhahhahahah.

[Honeyko]

If you think that's funny, here's the topper: They charge money for DivX Converter.