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neo_sapien
7th January 2002, 17:50
Windows 2000 SP2
VDub 1.48
Nandub 1.0rc2
Gordian Knot 0.23 beta

Hi. I'm trying to rip an (NTSC) copy of Tim Burton's "Planet of the Apes". I'm using the guide found in the Gordian Knot "Help" section. Everything goes fine until Step 10:
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10> In File menu in d2v viewing window select "save avs" and save YourMovie.avs to the appropriate directory for later
opening by NanDub.

if your souce is interlaced or 'force film' does not work for any reason your 'in trouble'. ivtc is not supported by gknot at the
moment. you have to edit your .avs-file manually. please have a look at www.math.berkeley.edu/~be...rence.html and read
all the avisynth-ivtc-deinterlace-threads in forum.doom9.org.
to deinterlace just check 'deinterlace' before saveing the .avs
please read doom9's guides and make sure you fully understand the difference between ivtc and deinterlacing!

to verify if your .avs is OK just open and watch it with mediaplayer(6.4) (like a normal avi).
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In DVD2AVI I'm using "Force Film". I'm not sure what iVTC is, but I'm pretty sure I'm not trying to implement it in this particular 2-CD rip. Nandub/Vdub are unable to open my .avs file, WMP 7.1 says that format is not supported, The Playa says "Error: The location you selected could not be opened". For the benefit of any WMP 6.4 purists, I even dug up that old app. "Cannot play back the file. The format is not supported. (Error=80040265)".

This is my first serious attempt at GKnot. What can I do to get my .avs file working?

TheWEF
7th January 2002, 20:56
install the FULL pack 0.21, then run the 0.23 update - that's all.
get both files from doom9's download section.

and read his guide, it is more up to date then the how-to.

wef.

neo_sapien
7th January 2002, 22:33
Thank you very much, it appears to be working now.

Sweet, I can't wait to see how much better this looks than the rip I made using Xmpeg last night. :D

neo_sapien
8th January 2002, 05:18
It worked. Certainly much better quality than Xmpeg alone can give me, too. Just two things-there appears to be a certain degree of pixelation/blockiness in the film. That, and it appears as though someone sprayed a paper-thin layer of sand onto the film. Will applying a small amount of noise filter in GKnot rectify this? GKnot's noise filter is temp smoother, right?

Specs----
Divx 3-1259kbps
672*288
Sharp Bicubic
Smart De-interlacing
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Here are screenshots: (if the attachment thing works)

http://members.home.net/wlabiche/Snap1.jpg
http://members.home.net/wlabiche/Snap2.jpg
http://members.home.net/wlabiche/Snap3.jpg

EDIT~I saved the jpegs in 100% quality, unoptimized, 0 blur from Adobe Photoshop 5.5, so the pixelation is not from an overly compressed JPEG.

TheWEF
8th January 2002, 05:58
a noise filter will not change anything here. this movie (like most big hollywood productions) is very clean.

but why the hell are you deinterlacing????
you said you are using "force film" (=IVTC) in dvd2avi. that's all you need. remove the deinterlacer and you will get a sharper picture with more detail.

wef.

neo_sapien
8th January 2002, 06:30
oh, my bad. *crosses de-interlace off the list*

EDIT~And now I'm encoding at 36.0fps, rather than 15fps. Sweet :)