DVD Rebuilder Pro v1.26.4?

[naiden_99]

I found this while surfing the net:

DVD Rebuilder Professional v1.26.4

But I don't see this version in doom9. What's going on, is this a fake or what?

Jdobbs are you releasing a new version this days?

[Fishman0919]

v1.26.4 is a test version. jdobbs asked in the P.M.I'd appreciate it if you would not distribute it to others, though, until it has been thoroughly tested. Guess someone can't follow directions

[kikatu]

It is not necessary to post the links; a donator should receive the new version by e-mail. If remembering right, it is not the first time the information is not updated due the need for testing. It is a generous one-time fee, so do not understand, unless someone is being hack.

[blutach]

Fishman0919 is right. Now, to catch the culprit.

Why people who are trusted by jdobbs would do this to reuce his income is beyond me.

Regards

[naiden_99]

I see, I was wondering if this could be some kind of trojan or another of those nasty things disguised as this nice piece of software.

Tnx for the info.

[Fishman0919]

You can see in the pic that it's reg to "Dr. Pc Putte Corporation". Will know for hacking programs.

The link in this thread should be removed

[naiden_99]

I can edit the post to remove the link, or should I wait for jdobbs to see it?

[laserfan]

Disturbing indeed--if naiden doesn't return, can't a mod kill the link?

Edit: naiden you can P.M. jdobbs if you want to give him the link, but edit it out of your post.

[naiden_99]

Done.

I think jdobbs is aware that there are some pirate versions of his work floating in the net, but if he want it I'll send him the link.

[laserfan]

Done.Good job--I hope jdobbs finds the scoundrel that published that file.

I think he does something to cripple and/or identify each copy but dunno what (nor would I tell if I knew!).

[naiden_99]

Maybe jdobbs has an ace under his sleeve.

[Rafterman]

I came across this on the net(needless to say I did not dl it).

DVD.ReBuilder.PRO.v1.26.4 - incl.FIXED.CRACK.by.DOC, so whoever Doc may be, someone might know. Alas there is not a lot of software that is not available patched/hacked or fiddled around with in some fashion these days from what I can see.

[blutach]

I just hope the freeloaders will experience the problems with audio sync and other stuff we have seen with hacked versions.

Geez, if they want freeware, why don't they use DVD Shrink or DVD2One? Makes you wonder why jdobbs does the work.

Whomever distributed this - shame on you!

Regards

[naiden_99]

If this is a test version, maybe there will be a lot of postings regarding problems with it and jdobbs will be able to find and correct the issues that he wanted to test.

So, if we see this way, maybe something good will happen in this unfortunate situation.

I just want to make clear that I wouldn't like to see this fine tool disappear because of the people like the one that leaked this version.

I'm a long time REGISTERED user of DVD Rebuilder (Although not with this name) and have found that the program has become a better tool to backup my DVDs with each new version that jdobbs release. And this kind of things make me mad because I think that we are in debt to jdobbs for his commitment in developing it and his continuous support to his users even the free ones.

I don't know how but maybe we could do something to help him stop or at least minimize this situation. The first thing that comes to my mind (besides donate, which I'll be doing shortly) is to report the postings to the different download sites (rapidshare, depositfiles, etc) that give us that option, so the file could be deleted.

What do you think?

[linx05]

The first thing that comes to my mind (besides donate, which I'll be doing shortly) is to report the postings to the different download sites (rapidshare, depositfiles, etc) that give us that option, so the file could be deleted.

What do you think?
I use to do this with three different programs (DVD Rebuilder was one of them). Now not so more I'm afraid as I don't have much time as I use to.

It was fun watching them try crack after crack and wasting hours of encoding time only to find out something went wrong. Some people were so cheap they used a cracked version of DVD Rebuilder to burn rentals for xmas presents. How sad is that? :rolleyes:

I hope I did not break any rules?

[Digga]

from what I gather round the net, the new cracks/patches/whatever by "Dr.Pc Putte" seem to work without problems, i.e. there are no bugs or limitations.

jdobbs, you got a PM.

[Sharc]

I simply can't imagine why a beta tester sould have distributed the test version further, intentionally and apparently abusing the trust.

[kumi]

DVD-Rebuilder is what 99% of the DVDR 'scene' uses. And a lot of these guys are kids with no money and/or no interest in paying for software.

So I don't think it's surprising that DVD-RB is pirated :)

[blutach]

What is surprising is as Sharc says.

Regards

[Digga]

So I don't think it's surprising that DVD-RB is pirated :)I guess nobody is really that much surprised.

still, I personally have two reasons to keep the availability of cracked versions of DVD-RB down to a certain low level (at the least):

1) jdobbs seems to be a rather nice guy who listens to his customers and tries to deliver a good product. at least as I'm concerned, he has done a great job so far.
so I just think it's only fair if he could at least cover his expenses with the registration income.
2) as a registered user, I have an interest in new, improved versions.

hmm. I guess we all know that, so this is rather a heads up to jdobbs and Rockas. keep up the good work guys :-)

[Pulp Catalyst]

well from my experience, people crack for one main goal, "The Challenge",

to my knowledge DVD Rebuilder uses ASProtect Protection,

well this raises a flag to crackers, and written on that flag is "I'm strong, i bet you can't crack me",

cracking groups are very big, but a strictly closed group, as in, you can't find them, they find you,

and the way they find you, is on the work you do, and how successful you are at it,

there are many protections coming out, and no protection is safe for long, for games (TAGES) protection has probably got to be the strongest protection (which works, unlike Starforce 3) that has been around for a long time, but even that protection is now showing signs of weakness, and can no longer stand up to these powerful cracking groups,

it's a bit like Open Source community, which we all no, is very powerful, well this is what makes the cracking groups so powerful, perhaps not open as open source, but still based on the same principle,

and to make matters worst, most protections have familiarities, so version 1 to version 2 usually has something in common with 1, which already gives the crackers something to build on,

there are some exceptions to this, Starforce 2 to 3, version 3 did put up a big fight, and changed so much in nature, took crackers a long time to debug this type of protection, but in general this is not the case, and starforce 3 also caused many problems on people's system's and insisted on many restrictions be placed on the user, as in what they can and can't do, which shows that to much security can actually cause more problems then solve. but starforce 4 has corrected these issues i should add, but there are many games out there that have starforce 3 on, so in effect the damage is done, and can't be undone....

now of course many could ask why not just keep coming up with new protections then, well, we can't keep redesigning an elevator can we, or keep changing the fundamental design of the aeroplane,
upgrading something is hard enough, but innovating a whole new concept every time would be near impossible, costly, and unpracticle.

all jdobbs can do is watermark his executable, and don't even think about increasing or changing his protection method, as this will raise even more challenges for other groups to get involved,

I.E. look how many cracking groups hit on MS windows xp, because of there new WPA, within 24 hours, WPA was cracked, then came WGA, which they spouted was unbeatable, took 3 months (as in 3 months for a reliable method to be done, not the stupid cracks that were coming out of the wood work, and which most didn't work) and that was done as well,

jdobbs can only minimize the % of people showing dishonour and having no ethics, he should not attempt to raise the bar and inevitably declare war on cracking groups, most people will always find a way if enough time is invested,

watermarking the executable is a tried and tested method that has a good success rate, and of course blacklisting helps as well,

also it should be known that ASProtect is very easily identifiable, only took me 12 minutes to find this info out, of course that is barley step 0 of course, but does give crackers a start i'm sure
"identifying the problem is the beginning of understanding where the start line begins".

[naiden_99]

This message appeared in one of the sites that list the download link for the pirated version.

"Not official yet but has been of the ftp for 10 days now. Getting Trojan Horse SHeur.OVA error from patch file scanned with AVG."

I think that's the price they'll have to pay for this program.

[linx05]

I simply can't imagine why a beta tester sould have distributed the test version further, intentionally and apparently abusing the trust.I BETA test an addon for Windows Live Messenger. Every once in a while a test version is leaked. Why? The main reason wasn't a planned attack, but rather letting a friend use the test version. The tester thought he/she could trust this person but eventually it spread.

Of course there could be other reasons. Maybe jdobbs could lock certain versions down to email addresses. Of course this isn't always fool proof but it helps.

"Not official yet but has been of the ftp for 10 days now. Getting Trojan Horse SHeur.OVA error from patch file scanned with AVG."
I see you follow one of the sites I follow. Report the files to their respective host and it will be gone in a few days.

[laserfan]

jdobbs must be "on assignment" somewhere but I do hope he can track the copy back to the "traitor" in our midst and eradicate him! :devil:

[stereo]

Everybody here - including me - agrees that jdobbs is a swell guy, who helps everybody out in an outstanding manner, and that it would serve everybody's interest best if DVD-RB wasn't cracked or beta versions weren't leaked. But lets face it: this is the real world, cracking will go on forever and ever. So there's a "traitor in our midst"? Why shouldn't we expect even a beta tester to have conflicting interests?

Naturally, I don't condone what has happened, but just like various DVD copy protections have been cracked (almost) every single time (and will, eventually, one by one be defeated), so will any software protection. My main point is that by protecting a piece of software, you won't totally defeat illegal uses, but you will - presumably - force the majority to actually buy the app. (jdobbs' income from DVD-RB may very well contradict this...).

[laserfan]

I don't condone what has happened, but...jdobbs had said "I'd appreciate it if you would not distribute it to others".

Maybe you're right, that "traitor" is the wrong choice of words. On second thought, I would instead use "a..hole"! :)

[Sharc]

Maybe it wasn't even distributed. What if the crackers guess the PW and spy the PM's?

[blutach]

I think that is a very long shot Sharc.

Regards

[Rafterman]

I would not be certain there is a traitor in the midst of the beta testers that J Dobbs uses and trusts. Many of these cracking groups are quite smart and I suspect some are also involved in hacking websites and ppls pc's. It may be that the beta version was aquired illegally. What is disturbing though is the fact that these ppl appear to give J. Dobbs no credit for releasing a free version of his app.

[Wodan]

I would not be certain there is a traitor in the midst of the beta testers that J Dobbs uses and trusts. Many of these cracking groups are quite smart and I suspect some are also involved in hacking websites and ppls pc's. It may be that the beta version was aquired illegally. What is disturbing though is the fact that these ppl appear to give J. Dobbs no credit for releasing a free version of his app.

i doubt any website or pc was hacked...most likely a beta tester leaked it

[Wombler]

This message appeared in one of the sites that list the download link for the pirated version.

"Not official yet but has been of the ftp for 10 days now. Getting Trojan Horse SHeur.OVA error from patch file scanned with AVG."

I think that's the price they'll have to pay for this program.

And that's exactly what they deserve. :)

Hopefully all the purportedly cracked copies are really trojans.:devil:

What they've saved by ripping off legitimate programmers mightn't last too long if they've a hidden embedded keylogger sending out their credit card details.


Wombler

[Wombler]

i doubt any website or pc was hacked...most likely a beta tester leaked it

Or it might just be the current version with the version number edited and free a trojan included.

In which case there might not have been a leak at all. Only the techies can confirm this though.


Wombler

[Wodan]

Or it might just be the current version with the version number edited and free a trojan included.

In which case there might not have been a leak at all. Only the techies can confirm this though.


Wombler

haha yeah maybe...its a cheap program why the hell not support it and avoid trojans/viruses

[Digga]

Or it might just be the current version with the version number edited and free a trojan included.nope, I checked that.

v1.26.4 can even be downloaded from the homepage...
everything else is pure speculation IMO.

[Wombler]

nope, I checked that.

v1.26.4 can even be downloaded from the homepage...
everything else is pure speculation IMO.

Surely the Pro version isn't downloadable from the homepage?

You need the personalised download links emailed directly by JD and v1.26.4 hasn't been officially released yet.


Wombler

[blutach]

www.jdobbs.com (which IS the homepage) shows 1.26.3

Regards

[jdobbs]

Well.... what bothers me is that now that we've had this nice discusson on the fact that there is a cracked version while I was out of contact with the web.... my donations are completely non-existent.

Sometimes I wonder why I even try. :( I guess other people feel that I and my family don't deserve to have luxuries like food on the table.

By the way, that beta was only sent to 5 people and it has at least one bug that needs to be fixed (which, of course, is why it hasn't been released).

@Pulp Catalyst

Gee -- do you think maybe you could give out a little more information? Much appreciated, champ. Much appreciated.

@naiden_99

Same... I'm sure your link wasn't followed and used by more than a couple of hundred thousand folks before it was removed.

[Edit: Made a correction -- the beta was sent to 5 people vice 3]

[Wombler]

Well.... what bothers me is that now that we've had this nice discusson on the fact that there is a cracked version while I was out of contact with the web.... my donations are completely non-existent.

Sometimes I wonder why I even try. :( I guess other people feel that I and my family don't deserve to have luxuries like food on the table.

By the way, that beta was only sent to 5 people and it has at least one bug that needs to be fixed (which, of course, is why it hasn't been released).

@Pulp Catalyst

Gee -- do you think maybe you could give out a little more information? Much appreciated, champ. Much appreciated.

@naiden_99

Same... I'm sure your link wasn't followed and used by more than a couple of hundred thousand folks before it was removed.

[Edit: Made a correction -- the beta was sent to 5 people vice 3]


You've depressed me after reading that post and I think it's appalling what has happened.:(

You have a very great number of loyal users out there (myself included) who would do anything to help you if they could.

All I can say is take some heart in this and don't let the acts of a few very thoughtless users detract too much from the thoughts of the loyal supporters you've well and truly earned over the years.


Wombler

[march2006]

You Guys Be Patient!!!

[laserfan]

You've depressed me after reading that post and I think it's appalling what has happened.:( You have a very great number of loyal users out there (myself included) who would do anything to help you if they could.Indeed, I am appalled as well, particularly (if this wasn't already clear) that I am one of "the five". I just went-back thru my DVD-RB records and discovered that I paid a mere $10 in some sort of special deal to get-on the RB development team about 2 years ago. :eek:

I just sent (a real!) contribution to DVD-RB@comcast.net (PayPal address for Jerry Dobbs) and hope some others will too. I do really feel that I'm getting much more than my money's worth from RB-Pro... Thanks jdobbs! :)

[campman]

@ laserfan

Great idea, I just sent my donation in also; I donated to Rebuilder prior to it going commercial and have had all those updates provided free of charge so an additional stipend to JDobbs is well deserved by him for his work. Thanks for the idea.

[Boulder]

By the way, that beta was only sent to 5 people and it has at least one bug that needs to be fixed (which, of course, is why it hasn't been released).I think you need to start watermarking unreleased stuff like the big companies do..it would make finding the guilty part easier.

[laserfan]

I donated to Rebuilder prior to it going commercial and have had all those updates provided free of charge so an additional stipend to JDobbs is well deserved by him for his work.Well said! I've kept most every update email and I think there have been >3 dozen updates in the last 2 years. And the majority I'll wager were for additional features (and not "bug fixes").

Indeed when I think back over my own history w/RB-Pro I hafta say it's remarkable how few "problematic releases" there have been i.e. at least for me every update has just worked, "as advertised"! :)

[therat]

Gee I go away for a weeks holiday and the first topic I read when I get back is that a beta tester leaked a copy of jdobbs' program.

Every time DVD-RB Pro is hacked, donations dry up. If this continues it will be inevitable that work on DVD-RB will stop as jdobbs works elsewhere to support his family.

It's sad to think people actually stoop to deliberately trying to send battling developers broke just for "the challenge". I wonder how they would feel if jdobbs put them out of work and they no longer had money coming in.

I'd like to see jdobbs develop a version that auto formatted the hard drive if the program executable was altered in any way. Might make them think twice before hacking the program in future.

Even more confusing is that jdobbs actually releases a totally freeware version that is addware and spyware free as well.

Sick people out there.

[Sharc]

The whole story sheds a bad light on the five beta testers. Even though there might be a "best friend" somewhere, the beta version still has to find its way to the cracker (!).
The consequential damage to jdobbs is apparent.
I would hope that the "distributor" - if this should really be the reason for the leak - has the courage to write a PM to jdobbs. Would be nice if jdobbs could post here that the matter has been clarified for him.

[chickenmonger]

Indeed, I am appalled as well, particularly (if this wasn't already clear) that I am one of "the five". I just went-back thru my DVD-RB records and discovered that I paid a mere $10 in some sort of special deal to get-on the RB development team about 2 years ago. :eek:

I just sent (a real!) contribution to DVD-RB@comcast.net (PayPal address for Jerry Dobbs) and hope some others will too. I do really feel that I'm getting much more than my money's worth from RB-Pro... Thanks jdobbs! :)

Yep, reading this thread was the impetus for sending in my very first donation to upgrade from the free version. (Snail mail, so I'll have a short wait)

[varekai]

Hello!

To all DVD-RB Pro lovers and users I know are out there!

After reading this disturbing thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=130242
and jdobbs reply:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1049684#post1049684
I find it very sad that jdobbs is not getting any new donations for all of his excellent work!

I have only made one (1) $29.95 donation in the past for this absolutelly outstanding piece
of software which I believe is worth a lot, lot more, considering the regular updates and
the excellent support given by jdobbs himself, I'm also finding lots of useful information,
tips and trix at this very lively forum. I've now decided to make a new donation to show my appreciation!

So, DVD-RB Pro lovers, I strongly urge all of you that regulary use DVD-RB Pro to make a new donation!
To support the development of DVD Rebuilder Pro, we all need to make donations!
Let us all show jdobbs our appreciation with a big or small donation, I'm 100% shure that most of us using
this software can afford to donate something! Please everyone, show some generosity...

regards varekai

PS/ @jdobbs, new donation is on it's way... :)

[blutach]

Yeah - me 2. I also got in as a lousy $10 VIP and that's just too generous of jdobbs IMHO.

So, I'm topping up, too.

Let's all get behind this push - espeically us $10 VIPs. Donate as much as you can to counter the scourge of torrents.

Regards

[steptoe]

Just checked the DVD-RB main site, can anybody see the 'donate' button, or am I just not looking hard enough

[linx05]

Sure, I'll do it. If this paypal doesn't reach my account by the 1st (want to buy muxman) I will push it jdobbs way. That's $23 AUD.

There are few devs out there like you jdobbs. Take my money and spend it on some luxuries. If you dis-continue DVD Rebuilder at least I know you will have had some fun on my money.

Later.

[blutach]

@steptoe. Open the app and click on Help-Make a donatation :)

Regards

[jdobbs]

All,

1. I sincerely hope I didn't offend anyone with my response in this thread. I was a little pi**ed when I came back online to find this thread at the top of the forum.

2. While I appreciate all donations (for obvious reasons), I don't want any of the early contributors to feel as if they need to send more. The reason the "charter" VIPs all got in for $10 was because they helped in the development -- meaning they were there pointing out improvements and fixes that would make it a better product. If anything I'd say I owe them.

3. I don't know if any of the 5 beta testers handed out the software, and I don't want to imply that. I loaded it on my server for them to download -- and it's always possible someone else managed to find it somehow.

4. I'm not planning to stop development, but I have to spend less time on it so I can make a living elsewhere. I've given up on any hope that this will ever become anything more than a "just for the hell of it" endeavor. My plans for an HD-DVD version will probably also be tabled.

I guess for the most part I'm just disappointed in humankind -- mainly because I know there are lots-and-lots of people using DVD Rebuilder, and if only a few donated every now and then, I wouldn't be backed into this embarrassing situation. When people run the rip-off copy and it loads up REG-RB.EXE, for some reason they have a tendency to push the "Get Key File" button. My server get continual hits hour-after-hour of "Invalid user attempt" messages in my logs (24 hours a day) using the same old recognizable rip-off names -- so I know they're out there.

You'd think with that many people using it (or at least loading it on their computer), I'd get a a random donation every now and then just because of the exposure. Believe me, that isn't anywhere near the case. While I never planned to get rich on DVD-RB, I was hoping I'd do better than minimum wage... which, very definitely, is not the case. I have no illusion of ever supporting myself through it.

Now, here's the real point I'm trying like to make: Contrary to the way they'd like to portray themselves -- the hacker community is the best thing that every happened to large software companies (who dictate prices and control what you can and can't do on your computer -- you know who I'm talking about). They do it by pushing any small mom-and-pop startup out of existence before they ever get the chance to break even. The "bigs" just keep pulling in your money hand-over-fist, and never have to worry about competition at reasonable prices.

I know -- it sounds like whining, and since it truly is, I'll stop here.

[laserfan]

Just checked the DVD-RB main site, can anybody see the 'donate' button, or am I just not looking hard enoughMaybe you have some kind of ad blocker hiding this button? In any case, the Donate button on the right-hand side of http://www.jdobbs.com/ AFAICT gets you registered with a copy of Pro. Since I am ALREADY registered, I just logged-on to PayPal and clicked on SEND MONEY and entered DVD-RB@comcast.net (PayPal address for Jerry Dobbs). When you do this, you get a confirmation from PayPal that he is who we think he is! :)

I also put a note in the Comments area of my registered address so jdobbs would know I was already registered.

[laserfan]

I'm just disappointed in humankind...As I always say, "People are just NO damn good!". Some days I mean it as a joke, too often however it is not... :mad:

I have a lot of shareware and freeware on my computer but actually only a handful of programs that I use religiously, and RB-Pro is one of them. It has always been enjoyable and useful, but recently I bought an upconverting player (the wonderful Toshiba HD-XA2 w/Reon-HQV processing chip) that does an outstanding job with SD-DVDs, but for Component-Out, which is what I use, the CP has to be stripped. So now, more than ever, because I have to strip CP anyway from my DVDs to enjoy upconversion, post-ripping I use RB-Pro and these discs look almost like HD. Yeah sometimes I skip RB-Pro and just burn to DL disc, but most movies can be re-encoded and look just fabulous.

Anyway, here's another reason to use for RB-Pro and maybe the need will get greater as more people get-into HD displays, and upconverting players.

[linx05]

As I said, money is on the way. Thank you jdobbs.

[stereo]

Yeah, I've also just re-donated $30. Hope it helps somewhat!

[valnar]

Yeah, I've also just re-donated $30. Hope it helps somewhat!

I just donated another $25. I was an early adopter too. Keep up the good work JDobbs.

-Robert

[NobbyNobbs]

Having used it since version 0.14 I find it worth a lot more than what I have donated so far, so a new small donation from me also. :)

[laserfan]

I find it worth a lot more than what I have donated so far...That's great! NobbyNobbs to jdobbs... I love it. If we could bump this thread about once a month, maybe our favorite shareware author will get himself an HD-DVD player, and...who knows?! ;)

[blutach]

Hope springs eternal laserfan :D

Regards

[Adub]

Jdobbs,
Don't table HD-DVD support entirely!! It is one of several options that could bring back your donations in full and then some. You should finish a stable development with HD support, but keep it locked away for a small amount of time. Wait for HD burners to come down in price, and for HD burnable discs to become widely available.

Then come out guns blazing, saying that your program is the only one on the web with fully HD support!! People will flock to you by the thousands!!

And, it will give Hank315 time to finish adding support for high resolution mpeg2 encoding.

Honestly, I really think that tabling HD support permanently is a bad idea. It is maybe the strongest of several features that are sure to bring your donations/customers back.

If you need the hardware, wait 5-6 years until I graduate from college, and get a job, and I will personally buy you whatever drives/media you need for testing. Seriously, just bide your time until HD media becomes readily available and then explode onto the markets.

That offer for buying hardware is serious. For any developers that I recognize would truly benefit from the hardware, as soon as I have a stable source of income, I am your man for if you need a certain optical drive/ media/ processor.

Note: I won't be able to fulfill that promise for at least 5 years, but if you are still developing great programs (like Jdobbs is), then I will help to finance your application.

Merlin7777

Edit: Oh, and you might want to update your website with the latest version, just letting you know.