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bmnot
31st August 2007, 01:32
I found an [link deleted].

According to the numeric video quality numbers, the encoded video resulting from both codecs are extremely similar. Visually inspection of the stills confirms both codecs ability to render a great picture compared to the original source. The H264 codec seems to slightly reduce some noise making the picture look smoother at the cost of some detail. Inspection of the motion video shows extreme similarities between the two codecs reaffirming what was found by the quality measurements and still frame comparisons.

I’d like to make two side notes – diverging from the purpose of this test:
(1) For the purpose of comparing MPEG-4 AVC technology (H.264) to MPEG-4 ASP (DivX, XviD) and to MPEG-2 (DVDs), MPEG-4 AVC does shine through all the comparisons – no argument there. MPEG-4 AVC is truly more advance and a better solution for hard media encoding.

(2) For the purpose of online streaming content, the MPEG-4 AVC H.264 is indeed superior to MPEG-1 and FLASH FLV VP6/VP7 codecs yielding a better quality for the same bitrate or a lower filesize for the same quality as the other codecs. In late 2007 H.264 support will be added to the Flash player and all of us can enjoy higher quality streaming content.

In conclusion, for the purposes of full HD 1080p encoding, we find no quality or filesize improvement by choosing either one of the codecs. From a practical point of view, VC-1 has an edge over H.264 due to (1) the ability to play VC-1 content on any standard Windows computer with Windows Media player without the necessity to install codecs or new software (unlike H.264) and (2) the lower processing power required to display the VC-1 content at a full 29.97fps.


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[WARNING: The videos and frames have R-18+ rated content]

Sharktooth
31st August 2007, 01:58
From the numbers i see they may have used some weird settings for the mainconcept h.264 encoder.
there is no way on earth VC-1 can beat MC h.264 in PSNR and SSIM.

Sergey A. Sablin
31st August 2007, 02:51
I found an [link deleted].




[link deleted]The whole report & sample videos

[WARNING: The videos and frames have R-18+ rated content]

Main profile, no deblock, 2 ref frames, 2 slices and very old encoder. Who knows how were configured other settings...

Sharktooth
31st August 2007, 02:56
... as i thought ...

CruNcher
31st August 2007, 20:25
According to the numeric video quality numbers, the encoded video resulting from both codecs are extremely similar. Visually inspection of the stills confirms both codecs ability to render a great picture compared to the original source. The H264 codec seems to slightly reduce some noise making the picture look smoother at the cost of some detail. Inspection of the motion video shows extreme similarities between the two codecs reaffirming what was found by the quality measurements and still frame comparisons.

I’d like to make two side notes – diverging from the purpose of this test:
(1) For the purpose of comparing MPEG-4 AVC technology (H.264) to MPEG-4 ASP (DivX, XviD) and to MPEG-2 (DVDs), MPEG-4 AVC does shine through all the comparisons – no argument there. MPEG-4 AVC is truly more advance and a better solution for hard media encoding.

(2) For the purpose of online streaming content, the MPEG-4 AVC H.264 is indeed superior to MPEG-1 and FLASH FLV VP6/VP7 codecs yielding a better quality for the same bitrate or a lower filesize for the same quality as the other codecs. In late 2007 H.264 support will be added to the Flash player and all of us can enjoy higher quality streaming content.

In conclusion, for the purposes of full HD 1080p encoding, we find no quality or filesize improvement by choosing either one of the codecs. From a practical point of view, VC-1 has an edge over H.264 due to (1) the ability to play VC-1 content on any standard Windows computer with Windows Media player without the necessity to install codecs or new software (unlike H.264) and (2) the lower processing power required to display the VC-1 content at a full 29.97fps.
Sorry but if everyone thinks like that we could just give Microsoft the full Monopoly for everything, what this guy writes is worth nothing but it's also no suprise didn't expect anything else from a guy of the porn industry, just thinking about the bigest profit and nothing else.


Main profile, no deblock, 2 ref frames, 2 slices and very old encoder. Who knows how were configured other settings...

Yeah and no technicaly background understanding anything of what he wrote their just bla bla everything he reads and hears from other marketing guys, such people suck.

Razorholt
3rd September 2007, 04:49
That's just a poor strategy from Microsoft to regain credibility in the encoding sector. They have to fight against Adobe (commercial side) and x264/Xvid (OS side) and at the same time they have to promote their shitty Silverlight platform -that Netflix is far from being in love with... because of the quality provided.