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Objekt
30th August 2007, 01:57
My Samsung CDRW/DVD-ROM internal combo drive (model SM-352B) is on its last legs, and I've elected to replace it with an internal DVD burner/combo drive of some sort. That's "DVD" as in "plain vanilla" DVD (albeit multiformat +R, -R, etc.). No Blu-Ray or HD-DVD wanted or required.

The question is, which one? I have narrowed the field to the following:

LITE-ON Black 20X IDE DVD Burner - OEM (LH-20A1P-185 OEM)

LG Black 20X ATAPI / E-IDE Super Multi DVD Burner - OEM (GSA-H55NK)

PHILIPS Black 20X IDE DVD Burner - OEM (SPD2413BM/17)

Here's where I get confused:

-What does it mean for a mfg. to claim "20x" DVD burning? As far as I can tell, the fastest available DVD R media is rated for "only" 16x. I can see the benefit of 20x DVD read speed, but since the media is limited to 16x, why do they bother making 18x and 20x write-speed burners? There must be something I'm missing here.

-The LG and Phillips drives have 2 MB cache, but the Lite-On either has none, or Lite-On forgot to list it. My existing Samsung CDRW has 8 MB cache, but I didn't see a single DVD burner for sale that had more than 2 MB. Wouldn't more be better?

-I specified PATA drives because I do not have a free SATA port in my system (Athlon XP 3200+ on an Abit NF7S-v2 mobo w/1 GB RAM & Win XP Pro - yeah, it's old!). It used to be that there was no point hooking up an optical drive (such as the Samsung combo drive for instance) to a SATA port. There was no way an optical drive could max out a PATA connection, let alone SATA. Is that still true, or should I consider adding a SATA port card and get a SATA-interface DVD burner for better speed?

-Of the 3 chosen, which actually writes the fastest and most reliably with the widest variety of media? Other than the user feedback at Newegg, I've had zero luck finding reviews of the LG and Phillips drives. Could be they're simply too new. Your personal experience with any of the 3, or another you think I should consider, would be helpful here.

-Lite-On and Phillips call it "IDE," but the LG says "ATAPI / E-IDE." Isn't that actually the same thing? Or not?

-Why is the maximum CDROM read speed in DVD burners "only" 48x? I couldn't find a single DVD burner for sale that sported 52x CDROM read speed. I don't understand why a new DVD burner would read CDROMs more slowly than my 3-year old CDRW drive.

Thanks for any help you can provide. If there's another drive you think is the absolute bestest DVD burner on Earth but I haven't listed it, please make a suggestion.

Video Dude
30th August 2007, 03:40
What does it mean for a mfg. to claim "20x" DVD burning?
The drives can burn the media faster than the speed rating on the package. So you can burn 16x media at 18 or 20x if the drive supports it.


Lite-On and Phillips call it "IDE," but the LG says "ATAPI / E-IDE." Isn't that actually the same thing? Or not?
same


Why is the maximum CDROM read speed in DVD burners "only" 48x? I couldn't find a single DVD burner for sale that sported 52x CDROM read speed. I don't understand why a new DVD burner would read CDROMs more slowly than my 3-year old CDRW drive.
I wouldn't worry about the 600 KB difference. Most drives will never reach the stated 52x anyway.




Reviews and disc scans of the drives you listed:

LG GSA-H55N
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=214441

Lite-On 20A1P
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=201092

Philips SPD2413
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=215940

Objekt
30th August 2007, 04:28
I didn't know about cdfreaks, or I probably would have gone there first. It looks like there isn't a lot of difference in performance among the three drives. And thanks for clearing up the "media says 16x, but drive says 20x" thing.

Sharktooth
31st August 2007, 02:26
Asus burners are not bad also and they got SATA interface.

gellar
27th September 2007, 12:35
I like asus drives too, great stable drives.

MrSeanKon
2nd October 2007, 10:18
One more vote for ASUS.
But I like TEAC also. :)

mr soft
2nd October 2007, 17:11
Iīm also hunting for a new DVD drive.
I wasīnt aware ASUS made drives .

Go SATA is all I can say . All new motherboards are equipped with 4-6 sata connections and 1 IDE . This tells me they will be phasing out IDE drives soon . When you want to update that MoBo you wonīt be stuck with three or four IDEs like myself.
canīt remember who , but a good quote none the less

"Writng a disk at high speeds is like driving a very powerfull car down a very narrow street."

Also take into account that most toys ie; car stereo , DVD player ect donīt have the same read speeds.

Pioneer has been good to me before.