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HartleySan
26th August 2007, 14:57
If I were to encode the same source with the exact same settings, with the only difference being that one file was encoded with Xvid and the other with x264, would there be a difference? Does one clearly look better than the other? Thank you.
Sharktooth
26th August 2007, 20:00
xvid and x264 have completely different settings. however x264 should provide a better quality in almost any cases.
HartleySan
27th August 2007, 00:48
Cool. With that said though, I tried downloading an x264 codec, but quite frankly, I couldn't understand at all how to install it. It seemed like a command line exe or something. Did I get the right file?
prOnorama
27th August 2007, 01:14
You need a VfW x264 version to make it work in GK

The version from this site should work

http://gabextreme.googlepages.com/x264vfwunited
CWR03
27th August 2007, 08:13
It does work, and quite well, although I haven't had any luck with x264 and IVTC within Gordian Knot.
Sharktooth
27th August 2007, 12:21
b-frames and threads have huge problems but it almost works.
HartleySan
27th August 2007, 23:53
Thank you very much. I'm going to test it right now.
HartleySan
28th August 2007, 00:07
Well, the codec installed fine and everything "seems" to be there, but I'm having a problem. I configured the codec and now, I'm basically trying to encode a video, like I did with Xvid. Anyway, whenever I try to encode, I keep getting the same error:

VirtualDub Error

Cannot start video compression:

An unknown error occurred (may be corrupt data).
(error code -100)

Any ideas? Thank you.
Selur
28th August 2007, 08:05
You need a VfW x264 version to make it work in GK
agkp (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=117883) allows to use x264.exe inside GK.

Cu Selur
CWR03
28th August 2007, 09:42
Are you attempting to use IVTC with x264 withing Gordian Knot? Yours is the same error I receive when I tried.
HartleySan
28th August 2007, 17:05
I tried IVTC, yes, but also no IVTC and got the same error.
CWR03
29th August 2007, 00:05
On Gordian Knot, click the Options tab, then click the X264 first pass button and click Ok, then repeat for second pass button. This sets the path for the statsfile. It should then work for normal use, but I don't believe it'll work with IVTC, and there's no real support.
Sharktooth
29th August 2007, 00:58
There's a reason if x264 VFW was dropped and there are so many GUIs that support the x264 CLI...
prOnorama
29th August 2007, 02:43
There's a reason if x264 VFW was dropped and there are so many GUIs that support the x264 CLI...

A bit off topic but do you know any x264 CLI GUI's that don't need the MS .NET framework to run? (I know MeGui and AutoMKV both need .NET and I don't like .NET or these GUI's)

Some sort of AutoGK or "new GK" for x264 CLI would be great :)
Sharktooth
29th August 2007, 02:50
well, it sounds like prejudice... why dont you "like" .NET?
it's not some sort of evil thing that hides and creeps into your OS...
prOnorama
29th August 2007, 09:05
well, it sounds like prejudice... why dont you "like" .NET?
it's not some sort of evil thing that hides and creeps into your OS...

.NET programs seem to be slower on my old PC also I've had problems with crashes and had to re-install it a few times.

AutoGK or GK never crashed on me on 100+ encodings so my personal experience with these apps is a lot better than with .NET apps.

Maybe I should try Nero (not a fan of it) but at least I guess it doesn't need .NET to run to make a H.264 based encode
buzzqw
29th August 2007, 09:34
AutoMKV don't need .NET , not anymore

.Net was need when i used bepipe, now i am using SoundOut and this lib don't need any .NET platform

BHH