CineVision & Scenarist install on VISTA?

[Toti]

Currently Scenarist 4 and CineVision will only install on Windows XP Pro.

It won't install on Windows Home, X64, Media Center 05 or on Vista. This seems to be an installation block not software unable to run.

I have looked inside the .msi file but don't know how to remove the conditions. Can someone help me on this?

[fernando6]

just install cinevision and scenarist on a windows xp pro and then copy the Sonic dir in "program files" to your other windows computer and create shortcuts for the programs
it worked for me on windows media center

[kamikaZi_blitz]

Yeah you could do that or just extract the install executible with Uniextract.

[Toti]

Hello gang, I finally got to work underany Operating System. the restriction does not lies within the msi file nor even under the setup.exe file.

The conditional restriction is in another file called Setup.dcf

hope that helps.

[vsv]

I've heard before about vi$ta is P0S not OS :D
After reading this tread - understood this is fact.
Need to learn Linux;)

[bennynihon]

Hello gang, I finally got to work underany Operating System. the restriction does not lies within the msi file nor even under the setup.exe file.

The conditional restriction is in another file called Setup.dcf

hope that helps.

just sent a pm. curious how you managed to edit setup.dcf to install on other OSes. I'm trying to do so on WinXP x64. Thanks!

[vsv]

Hello gang, I finally got to work underany Operating System. the restriction does not lies within the msi file nor even under the setup.exe file.

The conditional restriction is in another file called Setup.dcf

hope that helps.

What need to change in *.dsf to install under vista? Thanks.

[Toti]

Wow, I have gotten lots of pm on this.

1. replace the .dcf file from anotherone that doesn't have restrictions, say..... Easy CD creator or Scenarist 3.

2. change the original .exe with the name from the other .exe just change the name not the whole exe file.

on the latest CineVision you also need to run manually some microsoft file under a folder inside the installation files. Don't have the file with me to give the name of the folder.

[matrix40]

Has anyone gotten Cinevision to run on say xp home yet?

[DeeVeeDee1]

anyone have any luck installing scenarist 4 on vista? followed toti's suggestions but still nothing. sent a pm. waiting to hear back.

[JohnnyMalaria]

Run the installer from the command line with msiexec. Make sure you run the command line as Administrator. Change to the directory containing the .msi first.

msiexec /i myname.msi /log mylog.txt

This will attempt to install the software and record everything to a log file. After it fails (assuming it does - running with Admin rights can make things install properly), open the log file in Notepad and look for the error.

This will give you a clue as to what the problem is.

Three common causes:

1. Checking for OS version incorrectly. XP is 5.1, Vista is 6.0. Some installers incorrectly look for version = 5.1 instead of version >= 5.1

2. Trying to register things like DirectShow filters without the required admin level.

3. Using hardcoded paths for things like "Documents and Settings" etc instead of using the recommended tokens designed to ensure upward compatibility. Same applies to registry entries.

The first can be fixed easily using a Microsoft program called Orca (basically it's a .msi editor).

The second and third can't readily be fixed.

BTW, a quick way to run the .msi with admin rights is to just right-click on it and select Run As Administrator....

If you need help analyzing the log file, let me know.

PS: Odds are this is nothing to do with Vista being a POS but rather careless creation of the .msi in the first place.

[survivant001]

@Toti

can you post your setup.dcf file ? will be simplier to do what you did.

thanks (still searching for a setup.dcf)

[DeeVeeDee1]

Johnny
I tried Orca and searched the .msi for VersionNT. All seem to be >=500 (ie XP/Vista). Problem is that msiexec is launched by setup.exe and that is where the OS version check occurs. Gotta edit the .dcf file.

Anyone know the structure of .dcf file or how to go about editing?

[dgoodbourn]

This might be a bit of a stupid question, but why are you all so keen on installing CineVision and Scenarist on VISTA? Especially the Home Edition? You've just spent the best part of £50k on software (unless you haven't! In which case this thread should be deleted), and you want to install it onto a Home Edition of an operating system that's not really ready for use just yet!

What computers are you trying to install in on anyway. To get the best out of CineVision, you need to spend another £10k or so on a tricked out PC with masses of storage! 1-2Tb or so at least!

Just my 2p.

[Trahald]

For help on installing cinevision and scenarist on Vista or for information when versions will be available for Vista, contact sonic directly for support.

[JohnnyMalaria]

Johnny
I tried Orca and searched the .msi for VersionNT. All seem to be >=500 (ie XP/Vista). Problem is that msiexec is launched by setup.exe and that is where the OS version check occurs. Gotta edit the .dcf file.

Anyone know the structure of .dcf file or how to go about editing?

I'm a little confused. Does the installation package contain a setup.exe file and an .msi file?

If so, just bypass the setup.exe file and run the .msi directly. setup.exe is primarily a bootstrapper to ensure you have the right version of Windows Installer, not necessarily the OS.

[DeeVeeDee1]

Johnny
Running the .msi directly results in error dialog asking to run setup.exe

[73ChargerFan]

Use Orca to delete the table "Launch Condition" from the msi file. Then it will install, quietly, but without shortcuts. You'll need to install the sentinal driver, and possibly the vc2005 redistributables library.

This does not get around any licensing issues, you still have to buy it. But it does get around its stupid "is your computer up to snuff" checks, like "is it a xeon processor?" and "is it an HP motherboard" and whatever other crazy ideas came into the programmers' heads.

[t3va]

Hi
Where can i find this file (setup.dcf) for OS Win7
Thanks

t3va

[lutinor]

What an old post and anyway who care about installing a very old version of Cinevision ? Install xp its the best way.