Burned DVDs don't play on standalone players (due to Vista)?

[SecretFire]

I'm having an odd problem now that I've upgraded from XP to Vista. Previously, I was able to burn files to DVD for viewing on television without too much trouble: Re-encode from xvid/mp3/avi to mpeg2 using quenc and avisynth, assemble in tmpegenc DVD author, and burn with ImgBurn. They always worked fine in standard DVD players.

I've since upgraded to vista, and now I have a problem. I've been using the same process, and the DVDs I burn playback just fine on my computer. The problem is that standalone DVD players (I've tried 3) reject the disk as invalid or unplayable. I've tried a variety of burning tools on vista: The built in one, ImgBurn, DCBurnerXP, Nero 6, tmpegenc builtin DVD writer, and all of them produce the same results.

I'm burning to single-layer DVD-Rs, with a BenQ DW822A, and I've been using the same stack of taiyo yuden's both before and after the vista upgrade.

Is there some tool I can use to check for the presence/absence of whatever it is that makes standalone players accept the DVDs as valid?

[blutach]

Welcome to Doom9. Do you verify your burns? Have you done a PIPO scan? Yudens are the very best there are and if you use ImgBurn (www.imgburn.com), it will ensure structure is OK.

Check your DMA is on on all channels.

You may wish to post an ImgBurn or Ner0 log.

Regards

[setarip_old]

@ SecretFire

Hi!The problem is that standalone DVD players (I've tried 3) reject the disk as invalid or unplayable.If you NOW try to play some of your older, successful burned DVDs on these standalone players, do they play?

[SecretFire]

Okay, this is bizarre: I just burned another disc with IMGburn (to get a log), and this time, for whatever reason, it worked. Bizarre. During my debugging, I've been burning two different videos. Video A I burned many times with the different programs, but video B I only tried once using one tool (tmpgenc) and when the first try didn't work, I just assumed it would fail like the others.

Basically, my thinking now is the only thing broken is my encoding of video A and tmpegenc's writing tool. I'm goign to try video A again and see what happens.

Anyway, here's a imgburn log form the good dvd:

I 20:27:35 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started!
I 20:27:35 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition (6.0, Build 6000)
I 20:27:35 Total Physical Memory: 2,095,680 KB - Available: 1,172,360 KB
I 20:27:35 Initialising SPTI...
I 20:27:35 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 20:27:35 Found 1 DVD±RW!
I 20:28:54 Operation Started!
I 20:28:54 Source File: C:\rob\gfx\bsg4_1.iso
I 20:28:54 Source File Sectors: 2,214,304 (MODE1/2048)
I 20:28:54 Source File Size: 4,534,894,592 bytes
I 20:28:54 Source File Volume Identifier: Volume 4
I 20:28:54 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 20:28:54 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 20:28:54 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 20:28:54 Destination Device: [1:0:0] ATAPI DVD DUAL 8X4X12 B3LC (D:) (ATA)
I 20:28:54 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TYG02) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x)
I 20:28:54 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496
I 20:28:54 Write Mode: DVD
I 20:28:54 Write Type: DAO
I 20:28:54 Write Speed: 8x
I 20:28:54 Link Size: Auto
I 20:28:54 Test Mode: No
I 20:28:55 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 20:28:55 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 20:28:56 Writing LeadIn...
I 20:29:14 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2214303)
I 20:36:44 Synchronising Cache...
I 20:37:16 Image MD5: cb38440d80a3919c977806f9bdd7aba5
I 20:37:16 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:21
I 20:37:16 Average Write Rate: 9,841 KB/s (7.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,100 KB/s (8.0x)
I 20:37:16 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 20:37:32 Device Ready!
I 20:37:32 Operation Started!
I 20:37:32 Source Device: [1:0:0] ATAPI DVD DUAL 8X4X12 B3LC (D:) (ATA)
I 20:37:32 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: TYG02) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x)
I 20:37:32 Image File: C:\rob\gfx\bsg4_1.iso
I 20:37:32 Image File Sectors: 2,214,304 (MODE1/2048)
I 20:37:32 Image File Size: 4,534,894,592 bytes
I 20:37:32 Image File Volume Identifier: Volume 4
I 20:37:32 Image File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 20:37:32 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 20:37:32 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 20:37:32 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2214303)
I 20:46:53 Device MD5: cb38440d80a3919c977806f9bdd7aba5
I 20:46:53 Image MD5: cb38440d80a3919c977806f9bdd7aba5
I 20:46:53 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:09:21
I 20:46:53 Average Verify Rate: 7,894 KB/s (5.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 11,424 KB/s (8.2x)

Here's the scan of the bad disc (video B)
http://secretfire.ca/burn1.png

And this one is the good disc I just burned
http://secretfire.ca/burn2.png

[SecretFire]

I just burned video A again (same encoding) and it worked. New theory: One of the failing writing tools borked the drivers in a subtle way that disappeared after a reboot.

Anyway, since I've effectively coastered about 8 disks at this point, I think I'm going to call it a job well done and move on.

[blutach]

The "bad" disk has just about the lowest quality number I have seen on a Taiyo Yuden disk. The good one is OK, but still lower than than 95 and 98+ we usually see.

Note there is a firmware update for your burner - http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1832

Regards

[setarip_old]

I 20:37:32 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: TYG02) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x)Perhaps I'm way out in left field but, as far as I know the only media that have 2.4X speed are rewritables and D/L.

I recall that a while ago there were postings about fake T-Y media...

[DaChew]

adding to the previous two posts and a lot of googling


from what I can tell the previous firmwares had issues
http://www.benq.us/support/downloads/downloads.cfm?product=616&page=downloads&dtype=D

http://www.benq.us/support/downloads/drivercounter.cfm?dpid=616&id=2138&size=909%20KB&type=D&filename=b3lc-2.zip&type=D&whereto=ftp%3A%2F%2F12%2E145%2E38%2E159%2Fdvd%252drw%252ffirmware%252fdw822a%252fb3lc%252d2%252ezip
this link is still alive
jan 2005

note 2 year old firmware and 3 year old drive, don't expect much