Subtitles not working

[nosjojo]

I'll try to squeeze all the information in with this post, I'm at work so I can't reference anything detailed

I have been trying to move my movie collection from DVD to my Vista MCE over the summer, and I've hit a snag. My foreign films don't seem to want to place english subtitles on the video files.

I ripped Episodes 1-13 of Hellsing, Amelie, and Princess Mononoke. I did that with DVD Decrypter, using IFO mode and no split tracks. When I load them into AGK, I select the subtitle track and language I want, and run the encoding overnight. I looked this morning, and the languages were correct, but there were no subtitles to be found.

Did I miss a setting, or is something messed up?

[manono]

Hello, and welcome to the forum,

Let's forget about the episodic Hellsing for a minute as no subs for episodes can also be for a different reason, and concentrate on the 2 movies. Do you have the logs for the 2 movie encodes that didn't work? And you didn't do anything foolish like checking the "Display Only Forced Subtitles" box in the Advanced Options, did you?

[nosjojo]

Thanks for the greeting.

At the moment, I can't supply the logs, won't be able to access those until around 730CST, so I'll post those when I can. (I'll try to get someone at my home to email me the logs in a minute though)

[nosjojo]

Since the subtitles didn't work last night, I ran them again this morning and DID press Display Force Only Subtitles, just in case I mistook the meaning. Unfortunately, I didn't think that through and my logs were overwritten. I had someone email me the newer log though, in case it has anything important.

[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] AutoGK 2.40
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] OS: Windows Vista (6.0.6000).2
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] Job started.
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] Input file: C:\Users\Media Center\Desktop\Amelie.IFO
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] Output file: C:\Users\Media Center\Desktop\Amélie.avi
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] Output codec: XviD
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] Audio 1: Francais AC3 6ch
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] Subtitles 1: English wide
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] Display only forced subtitles.
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] Format: AVI
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] Target size: 1493Mb
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] Audio 1 settings: Original
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] Started encoding.
[7/2/2007 8:29:37 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[7/2/2007 8:32:59 AM] Processing file: C:\Users\Media Center\Desktop\Amelie.VOB
[7/2/2007 8:32:59 AM] Source resolution: 720x480
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] Found NTSC source.
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] Color correction enabled.
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] Output will contain 175286 frames
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] Preparing subtitles.
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] IFO file is not found. Subtitle processing is disabled.
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] Audio1 size: 409,407,488 bytes (390.44 Mb)
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] Overhead: 1,218,432 bytes (1.16 Mb)
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] Video size: 1,154,898,048 bytes (1101.40 Mb)
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] Running compressibility test.
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] Writing the following script to C:\Users\Media Center\Desktop\agk_tmp\Amélie_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\Users\Media Center\Desktop\agk_tmp\Amélie.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[7/2/2007 8:36:25 AM] Duration was: 3 minutes 24 seconds
[7/2/2007 8:36:25 AM] Speed was: 42.78 fps.
[7/2/2007 8:36:25 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 59.27
[7/2/2007 8:36:25 AM] Chosen resolution is: 640x272 ( AR: 2.35 )
[7/2/2007 8:36:25 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 72.87%
[7/2/2007 8:36:25 AM] Running first pass.
[7/2/2007 8:36:25 AM] Writing the following script to C:\Users\Media Center\Desktop\agk_tmp\Amélie_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\Users\Media Center\Desktop\agk_tmp\Amélie.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false)
===========================================================
[7/2/2007 9:20:06 AM] Duration was: 43 minutes 40 seconds
[7/2/2007 9:20:06 AM] Speed was: 66.89 fps.
[7/2/2007 9:20:06 AM] Expected quality of first pass size: 71.42%
[7/2/2007 9:20:06 AM] Running second pass.
[7/2/2007 10:14:09 AM] Duration was: 54 minutes 3 seconds
[7/2/2007 10:14:09 AM] Speed was: 54.05 fps.
[7/2/2007 10:14:09 AM] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 44 minutes 31 seconds

[nosjojo]

I noticed this line:
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] Preparing subtitles.
[7/2/2007 8:33:00 AM] IFO file is not found. Subtitle processing is disabled.

Not sure how to fix that, but I assume this is where my problem lies. Any ideas on how to slap some sense into the program (or myself)?

[manono]

Yeah, I was just going to post that line, but you beat me to it. Seems to be a problem with AutoGK, since you seemed to have opened the IFO in the first place, so it's obviously there.

Here's what I would do; I'd get the subs myself. Open that same IFO in VobSub Configure (included with VobSub), and get the subs you want in IDX/SUB format. Doom9 has a guide for it here:

http://www.doom9.org/dvobsub.htm

Move the subs for the language(s) you don't want back to the left side, so you're left with only the 1 subtitle stream. Create the IDX/SUB file. Then add the subs into the encoding using the CTRL-F8 and following this guide:

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic316471.html?sid=757c0dee1469933c009f2e46c6b1f221

Kind of the long way around, but there seems to be a problem here. Could it be VISTA related? I don't know.

As for Hellsing, do you have the AVI(s), but without any subs? Did you do all 13 episodes separately, but have subs for only the first one? Or did you do all 13 episodes and not get any subs? Do you have IDX/SUB files for Hellsing? Can you play them with the AVIs? As external subs, with the green arrow appearing down in the Sys Tray?

[nosjojo]

The Hellsing episodes are ripped into individual .VOB/IFO files. I only encoded Ep. 1 & 2 to test them and both had no subtitles.

I'm testing to see if the subtitles failed because of a setting in DVD Decrypter, so I re-ripped with a different method and am trying an encoding that way. If that works, I'll post the changes. If it fails, i'll try your lengthy way.

--- edit ---
The movie is encoding, and i've noticed the error line isn't present in the log as of now, so I'm going to assume the change worked. What I did, DVD Decrypter was running in IFO mode, and under the Stream Processing tab, the stream was disabled. I enabled the stream with default values, and decrypted the disk. If this works, I'll throw the rest of the files in and run them overnight as well.

[nosjojo]

Update: the subtitles worked in the newest attempt. So, to confirm, I had to enable stream processing to get the subtitle tracks to load at all.

[manono]

What I did, DVD Decrypter was running in IFO mode, and under the Stream Processing tab, the stream was disabled.
Are you saying you unchecked the box for the subtitles? So you removed the subs from the VOBs? Or are you saying that when looking into Stream Processing you found the subs box unchecked?
So, to confirm, I had to enable stream processing to get the subtitle tracks to load at all.
I still don't understand. Ordinarily, you don't do anything at all in Stream Processing. Don't touch it. Leave everything checked that's already checked, and don't check the "Enable Stream Processing" box. You didn't make any changes from default in DVD Decrypter->Tools->Settings->Stream Processing, did you?

Anyway, I'm glad you figured it out.

[nosjojo]

The only changes I made in any settings was the breaking of the .vob files, I just set dvd decrypter to not divide the files.

For some reason, which I can't really understand, if I don't enable stream processing, the subtitles do not seem to copy over. So, when I go to process the file, the subtitles fail and don't load. When I enable stream processing, it works just fine without any issues.

I honestly could not state why that happens, but it's what i've noticed fixes it.