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MetalheadGautham
30th June 2007, 23:14
I have quite a few divx movie rips encoded in the avi container. But as AVI is old and obsolete, I want to transmux them to the DivX container. Is there a freeware that can do this???

and can I put XviD video in a DivX container?(I know its like asking can I do anything worthwile by shaving a baby, but still.....)

and what other container would you prescribe for my XviD + MP3 in AVI videos to be transmuxed to?

is it worthwile to transcode that 147kbps mp3 stream to 96 kbps vorbis before transmuxing?

TheRyuu
1st July 2007, 00:45
There's nothing wrong with avi. It's still used heavily today (I use it all the time when I use xvid).

The "newer" containers you might want to look at are mkv and mp4, not divx (IMHO). But they're used for something like x264+aac or ogg.

You should be able to put xvid in divx container although I don't know why you would. The Divx container really is nothing more then a renamed *.avi file with the ending changed.

They're fine the way they are now. It's not like your gonna gain quality by changing the container. The stream is exactly the same.

So, conclusion. Don't screw with 'em IMHO.

FishTank
1st July 2007, 00:54
I want to transmux them to the DivX container. Is there a freeware that can do this???

heh rename them, nothing but explorer required, though i have
to agree with the poster above me.

setarip_old
1st July 2007, 02:18
But as AVI is old and obsolete, I want to transmux them to the DivX container.
1) .AVI is certainly a mature container, but there's certainly nothing "obsolete" about it.

2) Painting black stripes on a white horse doesn't make it a zebra. "Changing" (There's no real change involved, just a different extender) an already existing DivX-compressed .AVI to a ".DIVX" extender will provide a benefit of exactly ZERO - In fact, such a file extension may not be recognized by some programs and/or players.

3) "Transmux" - Is that your own new word - a combination of "transcode" and "multiplex"?

Forgive me for plagiarizing one of your statements about yourself in an earlier post but, this seems to be yet another post where you really haven't thought things through - so that it almost appears that you're posting simply for the sake of posting...

check
1st July 2007, 02:22
setarip, transmux is a neologism for changing container -- I agree with everything else though :)

setarip_old
1st July 2007, 02:27
transmux is a neologism for changing containerMust be quite "neo" - or I'm even closer to "necro" than I'm willing to admit ;>}

chipzoller
1st July 2007, 03:36
What's the point in transmuxing to the DIVX container if you're not going to take advantage of any of its proprietary features? Remember the adage "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"? There's nothing broken (at least not to the extent of H.264 in AVI) with DivX/Xvid (MPEG-4 ASP) and MP3 in AVI container, so no need in bothering.

CWR03
1st July 2007, 08:21
There actually is a proprietary DivX container, or at least there was when I first tried Dr. DivX, which allowed chapters and subs that .avi doesn't support. I have to agree, though, why bother changing your files around if they already don't contain any of the things from which you'll benefit by using a different container?

MetalheadGautham
1st July 2007, 09:13
well, when I convert files to other containers, I notice that there is a noticable reduction in size. especially for avi to mkv.

and the main fact is that I am looking for a software that can transmux between different formats.

CWR03
1st July 2007, 10:20
well, when I convert files to other containers, I notice that there is a noticable reduction in size. especially for avi to mkv.
1 MB is noticeable. How much are you talking? Does your current method not do what you require?

MetalheadGautham
1st July 2007, 10:24
I have lots of huge movie rips, and for a dvd to 1400 mb conversion it takes a lot of time...

when I transmuxed a 406 mb flv file to mkv I got a 400 mb file.

chipzoller
1st July 2007, 11:40
and the main fact is that I am looking for a software that can transmux between different formats.
I guess what we're all getting at is if you can provide us WHY you are looking to transmux to the DIVX container it may give us a better idea of what to suggest/how to help you either do this or find an alternative. Care to illuminate us on this point?
Since you say "other formats" you should know that your xvid-mp3-in-avi files are easily imported and transmuxed into MP4 and MKV using tools such as mp4box and mkvmerge.

when I transmuxed a 406 mb flv file to mkv I got a 400 mb file.
I can't speak for flv, but try transmuxing a test avi file to mkv and I'll bet for a similarly-sized ~400MB avi the resultant MKV file will not be close to a 6MB difference. And AFAIK there is no transmuxing operation, even with a 400MB starting file, that will knock-off 6MB just due to container overhead.

FishTank
1st July 2007, 12:57
I have lots of huge movie rips, and for a dvd to 1400 mb conversion it takes a lot of time...

when I transmuxed a 406 mb flv file to mkv I got a 400 mb file.

you know i can make a 50mb avi file out of a 406mb flv file.
acording to you, that would make avi better then mkv.

if it has been converted to .flv (it had to be), then the quality
is bad already and you're going to encode it again to lower the
quality yet again, hell no wonder you get a smaler file size.

:readguid::rolleyes:

you talk about movies and 400mb flv files. there is only one reason why
you'd have a movie as flv, so i think you need to.. :readrule:

MetalheadGautham
1st July 2007, 20:31
you talk about movies and 400mb flv files. there is only one reason why
you'd have a movie as flv, so i think you need to.. :readrule:

actually, it was a test rip. I had ripped the same movie to many formats to compare them.(vlc to the rescue :D)

I guess what we're all getting at is if you can provide us WHY you are looking to transmux to the DIVX container it may give us a better idea of what to suggest/how to help you either do this or find an alternative. Care to illuminate us on this point?
Since you say "other formats" you should know that your xvid-mp3-in-avi files are easily imported and transmuxed into MP4 and MKV using tools such as mp4box and mkvmerge.


Thanks for the info ! I wanted to update my videos to a format thats newer and has smaller hedders.

I realised that I can always sync my .mpg, .mpeg, .avi files by muxing them to .mp4 !!!!

but I still would like to have DivX rips in DivX container simply because just by looking at a file I can tell that its DivX.(Will try the renaming option then)

I am also planning to do the same with XviD rips and naming them as <movie_name>.xvid so that I can know its xvid.

I currently have filenames something like the good the bad and the ugly.xvid.vorbis.mkv, speed.divx.mp3.avi, etc.

Forgive me for plagiarizing one of your statements about yourself in an earlier post but, this seems to be yet another post where you really haven't thought things through - so that it almost appears that you're posting simply for the sake of posting...

why should I waste my time with posts??? this was not a waste of time. I asked a straight question, for which I expected a straight answer; the DivX Pro Package is paid.

AVI is certainly a mature container, but there's certainly nothing "obsolete" about it.

My experience tells me otherwise. AVI files often take longer to seek, they appear distorted for a while when just seeked using MPlayer keyboad controls.

"Transmux" - Is that your own new word - a combination of "transcode" and "multiplex"?

you don't know the meaning of transmux?

:eek::readfaq::search::p

you know i can make a 50mb avi file out of a 406mb flv file.
acording to you, that would make avi better then mkv.

who do you think I am, a 2-Year old??? I am talking about transmuxing here, not transcoading(sorry for the rudeness, but some remarks piss me off)

There actually is a proprietary DivX container, or at least there was when I first tried Dr. DivX, which allowed chapters and subs that .avi doesn't support. I have to agree, though, why bother changing your files around if they already don't contain any of the things from which you'll benefit by using a different container?

does your post try to tell me that Dr. DivX can convert to the DivX container?:eek:

MetalheadGautham
1st July 2007, 20:36
I can't speak for flv, but try transmuxing a test avi file to mkv and I'll bet for a similarly-sized ~400MB avi the resultant MKV file will not be close to a 6MB difference. And AFAIK there is no transmuxing operation, even with a 400MB starting file, that will knock-off 6MB just due to container overhead.

then try this:

go to google video, in the nara archieves(or what ever its called), go to that old duccumentary "the eagle has landed".

download the gvp file and open it in notepad and go to the link shown in it.

it will ask you to open/save an avi file. save it.

then when you finish downloading it, transmux using Mkv-Merge-GUI.

watch the size difference and gasp.

Dark Shikari
1st July 2007, 20:36
Converting your perfectly good AVIs to a proprietary container supported by almost nothing is good because...? :rolleyes:

chipzoller
1st July 2007, 21:48
then try this:
go to google video, in the nara archieves(or what ever its called), go to that old duccumentary "the eagle has landed".
download the gvp file and open it in notepad and go to the link shown in it. it will ask you to open/save an avi file. save it.
then when you finish downloading it, transmux using Mkv-Merge-GUI.watch the size difference and gasp.
Sorry, but I'm not gasping. The downloaded AVI is 215MB (did you realize it's MPEG-4 using Divx?) and transmuxing to mkv gives me 213MB...nothing surprising.

Your reasoning for wanting to do all this container switching really does not make sense to me (and most, I'm willing to bet), aside from you mentioning you'd like to identify what codec was used in creating the streams from the file names. That's fine. Then just rename the extensions to .divx or .xvid if you must, no need in moving to a different container. I don't see why a filename like "Casino Royale [xvid].avi" or "Moonraker [divx].avi" wouldn't suffice, but do as you like.

I would highly suggest you spend more time going through all the guides and sticky forum posts before postulating wild and inaccurate claims about containers or video formats. Drawing seemingly factual conclusions about things based strictly on your own limited personal observations is not a good habit, especially when reported to forums filled with myriad video processing professionals and gurus.

MetalheadGautham
1st July 2007, 22:30
but my question still remains unanswered: how do I do this stuff? Another reason for the same is because I want to create chapters within the movie(like fist of fury - the final fight).


also, it would do me a lot of help if someone tells me a good freeware transmuxing solution that can mux between different formats.


PS: I heard that vlc has been included in the google summer of code, and they intend to make a mkv muxer a part of vlc. Their forums appear to be offline. any idea why?:confused:

chipzoller
1st July 2007, 22:36
If you really really want something in a DIVX container, look at the divx converter and/or divx author program. Otherwise look on the divx forum here or on their official site. Did you realize that MP4 and MKV containers both support chapter entries?

MetalheadGautham
1st July 2007, 22:45
and how exactly do I create them?


I searched the entire internet and found not a single guide/software helping me to combine many files to which I have split a movie into into a single file as chapters and name/describe each of them.

I am also looking for a dvd to a single file converter which can transcode, transmux a dvd to a single file complete with menus(mkv/mp4/nut/vob/divx).

I am basically looking for a good transmuxing solution which handles many containers.

setarip_old
2nd July 2007, 01:55
Have you read this thread?:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=809615#post809615

I want to create chapters within the movie(like fist of fury - the final fight).It should be relatively easy to accomplish by using your original, commercial DVD and the information in the link I've provided. The same would be true for all of the other movie files you have...