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ShaneZ
21st June 2007, 01:06
Admittedly I have been out of the scene since right about the time LightningUK! was forced to stop development on DVDDecrypter which has been ages. I have been running off the last version I had for the longest time, but some of the newer copy-protection schemes do not play well with it.
The disc I started noticing this on is Stranger than Fiction (R1) and I have tried some of the other programs I could find (DVD43) and I still haven't come up with a viable image.
Are there any updated decrypters out there?
philco
21st June 2007, 01:13
dvdfabhddecrypter is a free decrypter that is updated all the time you can dl at dvdfab.com/free
ShaneZ
21st June 2007, 01:39
Thanks for the prompt reply. I just found that one by accident right when you replied.
Thanks!
linx05
21st June 2007, 04:21
DVDFab Decrypter and AnyDVD are the only major active ones left.
CWR03
21st June 2007, 08:15
RipIt4Me is still a very useful freeware application, although it has also been forced to cease development. The last I heard, there had been no new copy protection schemes released since then, so it should currently handle any disk out there.
linx05
21st June 2007, 09:39
RipIt4Me (http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/1101299/RipIt4Me.zip) cannot handle the new Protect DVD copy-protection. Though it can handle pretty much any other with ease.
setarip_old
21st June 2007, 16:44
And, in all fairness, it should be noted that only a VERY FEW (a handful, at most) DVDs have been released in a VERY LIMITED market (Germany) with "Protect DVD" copy protection, in the several months since it first appeared.
Therefore, with VERY LITTLE exception, RipIt4Me continues to be a viable, thorough, flexible and easy-to-use tool for making backups of your pruchased DVDs...
Rich86
21st June 2007, 18:04
And I keep hearing there are compatibility issues with dvd's that are polluted with "Protect DVD" in standalone players - so if you get one - test it thoroughly in case it has to be returned as defective. Personally, if it is clearly marked as "Protect DVD" - I won't buy it. And if I get one home that turns out to be "Protect DVD" and it does not function 100% in all computers, drives and players, it will be returned.
ShaneZ
22nd June 2007, 17:33
Well, I have not checked out AnyDVD yet, but I did like the free version of DVDFab HD Decrypter. I have tried to find an actual working link for RipIt4Me, but I am kinda stuck in my ways as far as creating DVDs.
Things have come a long way since the days of the "Big 3". I am still kinda amazed that I can make a dvd in an hour where it used to take a day.
linx05
23rd June 2007, 04:16
A link for RipIt4Me can be found in post 6 of this thread.
rabidjade
28th June 2007, 07:04
Was it me or was DVDFab HD Decrypter always a 30 day trial type of software? I just upgraded and don't remember the 30 day trial prompt last month when I installed it.
linx05
28th June 2007, 07:49
There is the free version (http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm) and the Platinum/Gold editions (http://www.dvdfab.com/download.htm).
rabidjade
28th June 2007, 07:50
Yea, I downloaded the gold version by mistake. Whoops. I recommend it to anyone though.
Dr.Khron
28th June 2007, 12:02
I backed up my R1 copy of "Stranger Then Fiction" with RitItForMe... worked great!
I still recomend this program for people in R1. There hasn't been a disc yet thats given it trouble. (for me here in R1, any way)
I like RipItForMe a lot, I'll be pissed off when they finally start using a new copy protectin here in the States that it can't handle. Until then, I'm happy as a clam.
BSpielbauer
1st July 2007, 20:38
I have only come across one disc to date that RipIt4Me could not handle (and I know that these are still the very rare exceptions.
I do recommend DVDFabDecrypter as the "still being updated" tool of choice.
-Bruce
MetalheadGautham
1st July 2007, 22:40
I dunno if this may help, but you can always download the free version of alcohol 52%, and mount the image created using it with daemon tools, and VOILA! you just ripped a DVD...
but beware that sometimes the images are larger than the disc and you can't burn using alcohol 52%. I suggest burning that image file to a dvd(dual layer if nessasary), and if you want, also place an installer of daemon tools in the same(some are quite paranoid about some formats:rolleyes:).
prOnorama
1st July 2007, 23:29
I dunno if this may help, but you can always download the free version of alcohol 52%, and mount the image created using it with daemon tools, and VOILA! you just ripped a DVD...
but beware that sometimes the images are larger than the disc and you can't burn using alcohol 52%. I suggest burning that image file to a dvd(dual layer if nessasary), and if you want, also place an installer of daemon tools in the same(some are quite paranoid about some formats:rolleyes:).
:confused:
Allcohol 52% is an emulator only so it won't rip discs. Maybe you meant Alcohol 120% which can duplicate CD's/DVD's (mainly software). Though I guess it won't help much because on their main site it states: *Due to the present legal restrictions DVD titles protected with CSS protection can not be backed up.
DVD Fab HD Decrypter works for me. Actually I have used it recently on a DVD that was scratched and wouldn't rip 100%: meaning I could rip the VOB's with the main movie but the sectors containing the VOB's some of the extras were not readable. DVDShrink couldn't open the (incomplete) DVD, but DVDFab opened it without a problem. So I was at least able so save the main movie and back it up again :)
mr soft
2nd July 2007, 17:22
Donīt quote me but, I vaguley remember reading that with alcohol on your system a few cds dvds wonīt play (I think mostly games)
They actually seek it before attempting playback.
Anyway ripit4me has been very good to me , It only coughed on de ja vu, and planet of the apes, For which I used fab.
R.I.P ripit4me updates.
ShaneZ
2nd July 2007, 23:06
Well, I tried installing Alcohol 120% on my Vista system one time and I can promise it is not something I will try again any time in the near future. They may have the BSoD problem fixed now, but I am not inclined to find out.
The last time I tried to install Daemon tools they had it packaged with some spyware-type stuff. It was a sad day because I used to love Daemon tools. Now I just mount images using PowerISO.
I switched to DVDFab HD Decoder for decrypting and ImgBurn for burning. I'd still be using Lightning UK!s decrypter but it was crashing on some DVDs and Vista didn't like it, much. :/
ToddG
8th July 2007, 21:13
:confused:
Allcohol 52% is an emulator only so it won't rip discs. Maybe you meant Alcohol 120% which can duplicate CD's/DVD's (mainly software). Though I guess it won't help much because on their main site it states: *Due to the present legal restrictions DVD titles protected with CSS protection can not be backed up.Alcohol 52% is actually both a image ripper and virtual drive emulator. 120% adds the ability to BURN.
linx05
9th July 2007, 04:01
But Alcohol won't rip commericial DVDs as prOnorama stated.
burfadel
9th July 2007, 10:50
Well, I tried installing Alcohol 120% on my Vista system one time and I can promise it is not something I will try again any time in the near future. They may have the BSoD problem fixed now, but I am not inclined to find out.
The last time I tried to install Daemon tools they had it packaged with some spyware-type stuff. It was a sad day because I used to love Daemon tools. Now I just mount images using PowerISO.
I switched to DVDFab HD Decoder for decrypting and ImgBurn for burning. I'd still be using Lightning UK!s decrypter but it was crashing on some DVDs and Vista didn't like it, much. :/
A few things! lol, the BSOD problem, which also occurred with Daemon Tools, was because Microsoft changed some internals in an update. The then version of the SPD passthrough driver common with Alcohol, Daemon Tools etc failed to work properly and led to the BSOD on boot problem. It has long been fixed.
Now, for Daemon Tools, they do have adware incluced, its NOT spyware. There's a distinction between the two, spyware has the attempt of gaining personal information, adware just gives you adverts and personal information is safe.
The adware in Daemon Tools IS optional, it asks you whether you want it installed during the installation process. If you don't want it, just deselect it! the programme works the same.
The PRO version, gives you the features like Alcohol 120%, has mandatory adware unless you buy it. If you only want an emulator install the standard version and deselect installing adware!
audiohominis
13th July 2007, 07:43
And, in all fairness, it should be noted that only a VERY FEW (a handful, at most) DVDs have been released in a VERY LIMITED market (Germany) with "Protect DVD" copy protection, in the several months since it first appeared.
Therefore, with VERY LITTLE exception, RipIt4Me continues to be a viable, thorough, flexible and easy-to-use tool for making backups of your pruchased DVDs...
:) Yeah, but even one single effective protection scheme is too many and embarrassing, if you consider the tremendous challenges involved in protecting an over decade-old medium standard and still keeping it compatible with the players - something that would seem impossible, yet they still somehow manage to do it, as if to say “In your face, suckers!” You really gota hand it to 'em. There have already been two titles that I’ve been unable to back up: a rather disturbing notion I’d say. The look of the distinct gray imitation aluminum face that such disks tend to have already sends shivers down my spine, which is, again, quite an achievement. So far DVD Fab and RipIt4Me have failed at those.
blutach
13th July 2007, 15:27
I suspect Protect DVD may not take off because several standalone players have reported difficulties playing the disks (even though they are on spec - if only just). No studio wants to release a DVD which will just come back at them - and certainly no major copyright protection outfits will want to do this. Their aim must be to have their product play on ALL players, otherwise their scheme is flawed and they must go back to the drawing board.
Regards
Carpo
13th July 2007, 16:49
nevermind ;)
buildthefence
17th July 2007, 05:36
Another alternative is K3B in linux. Just did Jurrasic Park 3 with it.
bartle
22nd July 2007, 17:44
Well, I tried installing Alcohol 120% on my Vista system one time and I can promise it is not something I will try again any time in the near future. They may have the BSoD problem fixed now, but I am not inclined to find out.
You can try using magicdisc to mount dvd image file. It is free.
http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm
Splashdriver
26th July 2007, 07:53
DVDIdle Pro worked fine for me :-)
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/DVDIdle.htm
linx05
26th July 2007, 10:47
DVDIdle Pro has not been updated since last year if I remember correctly. It might do some DVDs fine but the newer ones it will choke on. Better stick with the programs which are updated to defeat the copy-protection.
johndmes
2nd August 2007, 16:51
To be honest, the best combination of tools I've found is still using the venerable DVDShink in combination with the commercial program AnyDVD,
AnyDVD removes the protection "on the fly" so pretty much any ripper will work with it.
Admittedly, DVDShrink will sometimes barf on oddball IFO structures, which is where a two-phase process works -
Use the built-in ripper in AnyDVD to rip the disk to the HD, this will cause AnyDVD to fix the IFO structure as it rips. Then, use Shrink on the ripped files to reduce them down to recordable size - voila!
Using this duo (and this understanding) has worked for me 100% on every disk I've backed up.
castellanos
2nd August 2007, 18:53
@johndmes:
I totally agree! :sly:
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