I've got a Blu-Ray image from my PS3...now what? Can't play back on PC!

[Ichinisan]

I'm under the impression that, with Slysoft AnyDVD, you don't need to have a Blu-Ray PC drive nor HDCP monitor to playback from a Blu-Ray disc image. I was also under the impression that current ripping tools do not require unique keys for each title.

Is this so for Blu-Ray?

If so, is the PS3 Swiss Army Knife (SAK) utility current enough to have made a proper image of my movie? (Pirates of the Caribbean)

What I have:
Pentium 4 3.0 GHz Northwood with HyperThreading
2GB dual-channel DDR400
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
NVIDIA 7800GS AGP (non-HDCP)
Dell 2007WFP (HDCP)

I have a trial version of Nero 7 Ultra Edition Enhanced with Nero ImageDrive, and a trial version of Slysoft AnyDVD HD. The Nero InfoTool reports that the virtual "Nero ImageDrive" device is not a Blu-Ray drive. For playback, I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 7 Ultra (paid in full, expensive!).

What do I have to do to get this damn image file mounted and playable in PowerDVD?

I have updated to the latest NVIDIA driver and all of the other software products are up-to-date. Some trial products, like Slysoft AnyDVD, have updated since the trial began. The clock is ticking and I still can't get HD playback!

I created the ISO (Pirates of the Caribbean) on a PS3 using the Swiss Army Knife (PS3 SAK) Linux bootup ripping tool. The rip was temporarily stored on a FAT32 500GB external hard drive. The files were combined using COPY /B Blu-Ray.a? Blu-Ray.iso

The files appear to have been concatenated in the correct order according to the command line output.

What's next?

[Peer van Heuen]

I have updated to the latest NVIDIA driver and all of the other software products are up-to-date. Some trial products, like Slysoft AnyDVD, have updated since the trial began. The clock is ticking and I still can't get HD playback!


What version of AnyDVD are you using?
6.1.6.0 should work fine.

[Peer van Heuen]

Oh, and btw you need the very latest build of PowerDVD 7.3 to play Pirates.
This is not an encryption issue. Pirates simply are making heavy use of Java and early PowerDVD 7.3 builds just can't handle that.
WinDVD doesn't do it at all - at least I couldn't make it...

Read this:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=4599

(it says "Vista", but it's required for XP just as well).

It's a real pain to update to build 2911, so be careful... :(

[Ichinisan]

Thanks. I was using the latest version of AnyDVD HD already (the app lets you know when you need to update). Even though Windows XP isn't reading the file system of the disc mounted in Nero ImageDrive, PowerDVD is now able to playback movies that I have dumped since, like Apocalypto. Still, the Nero InfoTool reports that the virtual drive does not read Blu-Ray, but it works!

I think I now understand that the PS3 SAK utility was not decrypting in any way, though I had assumed that some sort of decryption was necessary to obtain a dump.

If CSS-protected DVD's require description while dumping / ripping, how is it that AACS-protected Blu-Ray discs are less secure in this regard? I do not recall being able to drag-and-drop files from a DVD to a hard drive and have usable files that can be decrypted afterward the dump.

It seems to me that AnyDVD HD is currently useful just for bypassing HDCP, because a legit software player like PowerDVD should handle the decryption...right?

[burfadel]

There is a limit to the size a fat32 volume can be under XP etc, with creating a partition much more limited size wise. Its possible your problem is related to the large 500gb size of the external fat drive you have. You'd have to look into it heavily, as there's lots of different information out there, but XP etc is really only designed to be used with ntfs on large volumes.

From the help of the format command, the number of clusters for fat32 is:
65526 < number of clusters < 4177918

Therefore the maximum number of clusters is 4177918.

If you have a cluster of of 64k, the maximum size the drive can be is 255GB. If the cluster size is 128k (such that its rounded up to each 128k step even if its 1 byte over), the maximum drive size is 510gb.

The help also says the 128k and 256k allocation size is only available for sector size >512b.

Anyway the problem could relate to something to do with that.

Maybe if you tried partitioning the drive so the cluster size is 64k or less (say 2x250GB for 64k) it will cause less problems? This may have nothing to do with your problem, but just pointing out Windows won't like a normal formatted fat drive bigger than 255GB.

Have you tried mounting with Daemon tools? If you install Daemon Tools do not install the search bar etc, its adware. It clearly states that and its fully optional!

[CZroe]

There is a limit to the size a fat32 volume can be under XP etc, with creating a partition much more limited size wise. Its possible your problem is related to the large 500gb size of the external fat drive you have. You'd have to look into it heavily, as there's lots of different information out there, but XP etc is really only designed to be used with ntfs on large volumes.

From the help of the format command, the number of clusters for fat32 is:
65526 < number of clusters < 4177918

Therefore the maximum number of clusters is 4177918.

If you have a cluster of of 64k, the maximum size the drive can be is 255GB. If the cluster size is 128k (such that its rounded up to each 128k step even if its 1 byte over), the maximum drive size is 510gb.

The help also says the 128k and 256k allocation size is only available for sector size >512b.

Anyway the problem could relate to something to do with that.

Maybe if you tried partitioning the drive so the cluster size is 64k or less (say 2x250GB for 64k) it will cause less problems? This may have nothing to do with your problem, but just pointing out Windows won't like a normal formatted fat drive bigger than 255GB.

Have you tried mounting with Daemon tools? If you install Daemon Tools do not install the search bar etc, its adware. It clearly states that and its fully optional!

This is Ichinisan's brother. I've been told repeatedly that Daemon-Tools is not compatible with BD images and that I should use Nero Image Drive. Which is correct? I actually uninstalled DT yesterday despite using it for years and years (since it was first available).

Anyway, the concatenated files are on a NTFS partition. As long as Windows XP properly copied the parts over from the large FAT32 partition, everything should be fine. Large external HDDs usually come preformatted as FAT32 specifically because the Windows utility will not allow it and it is the most compatible format for large drives. The copy process went fine because the image plays. The only issue here now is performance and the question of how to play these back on a PS3 without a BD burner. :)

[Peer van Heuen]

It seems to me that AnyDVD HD is currently useful just for bypassing HDCP, because a legit software player like PowerDVD should handle the decryption...right?

No, if you copy the files from your BD to HDD, no BD player will touch that stuff, until AnyDVD HD is running.
PowerDVD won't decrypt files you copied from a disc at all - otherwise, AACS wouldn't make much sense, would it? ;

EDIT: OK, before you guys say it: AACS doesn't make sense anyway, you're right :)

AnyDVD HD does the decrypting in the background and only because of that - PowerDVD plays your images (they are already decrypted when they reach PowerDVD).

The reason why AnyDVD HD bypasses HDCP is.....because it decrypts the stuff. That's the whole point.