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gelizy
29th May 2007, 08:11
hi there yall I'm new here and I've got a lil-big problem if someone could help me would be amaizing
I do my encodes with meGUI(vers 0.2.4.1041),the results being great:)
My question comes via the deinterlacers now.How in the world to perform a 3:2 pulldown (manual IVTC) if I have only the auto-deinterlacers:TIVTC,TDeint & Decomb IVTC..I've heard no GUI's support the 3:2 pulldown so pls if there is any method to do it in megui help me..I saw all these deinterlacers are located in avisynth once u update megui..is there any script or something for manual IVTC..or any other thing:stupid:?

foxyshadis
29th May 2007, 20:00
Telecine is another name for Pulldown. Thus Inverse Telecine, aka IVTC. That should clear things up a bit; everything with IVTC in it does inverse pulldown. There is no reason that you should need manual ivtc, unless you have a specific video that causes problems, in which case you can use YATTA. Prepare for an enormous amount of work for very little gain if you do that. If you really want to find out why a manual pattern is a bad idea, the script to do it is:
SeparateFields().SelectEvery(10,0,1,2,3,4,5,7,8)
With various offsets. The pattern is guaranteed to change at some point in most movies. Some GUIs have IVTC, but it's almost always terrible compared to TIVTC and Decomb.

The deinterlacers are a completely separate category.

gelizy
30th May 2007, 06:22
well manual IVTC has always better results than auto IVTC thats why I am asking how to perform it..idk why u said its bad..scene always uses that in their videos
I tried your script in the AVisynth script creator it look really good but the aspect ratio is now messed up I see a very small image..what to do?(I resized with the Lanczos sharper coz I think its the best resizer meGUI has to offer)

manono
30th May 2007, 07:05
well manual IVTC has always better results than auto IVTC

Nonsense. A manual IVTC will rarely give better results than an auto IVTC, especially true if you know how to tweak the IVTC you're using. And in cases where the settings don't do the job, then the override files you can set up in Decomb or TIVTC can fix the problems. Or, as foxyshadis said, you can use YATTA. And as she also said, the huge amount of work necessary for the minuscule gain just isn't worth it.

scene always uses that in their videos

Nonsense again. Most sceners wouldn't even know how to tweak an IVTC, much less do one manually.

....but the aspect ratio is now messed up

And what, pray tell, does that have to do with the IVTC? And the next time you use the language I changed, there's a strike in it for you.

Edited: For spelling.

gelizy
30th May 2007, 10:12
ok I'm sorry I used a uncensored word:p... I reffer to NTSC vobs..u may say that manual IVTC doesn't got better results than auto because maybe most of ppl from here use PAL vobs and dont mess with manual ivtc..as for the other things I'll upload sum pics for u to see:)

foxyshadis
2nd June 2007, 04:37
Pics are useless, upload sections of vob (cut with dgindex or another tool) so that we can test ourselves to see what error might be causing bad ivtc. There are a few badly-made DVDs out there that will cause trouble, with missing fields or bad transitions, for them the dedicated use YATTA (and the latest versions of every plugin you use). But it's usually a script problem, or an old plugin version.