TV Series Rip Problems (Eureka 7 DVD)

[Migs]

Hello All.

I'm currently having a problem ripping individual Episodes from the anime Eureka 7 DVDs, the problems I have are the Audio and Subtitles are totally Out Of Sync.

I work from Images (saved to the hard drive) I made from the original DVD's. The main goal I want is simply to make a encoding of this series into a MKV container (which I know how to do, so no need to explain this process. Not as Advanced as some people do it, but it's fine for me).

This is a pic from DVD Decrypter so you can see how the DVD is structured.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u227/Migs-se/e7dvd1dd.jpg

As you can see, these is more than one PGC that have the same timing. After extracting them all in full, I've noticed they are exactly the same(most probably all linking to the same source PGC?).

Basically, when I use Ifo Mode in DVD Decrypter, I only extract the episode I want (using info obtained from Power DVD's info feature, but as you can see it's not fairly accurate) and have the audio (AC3) demuxed.

When I import them into a MKV container, the subtitle adds and extra episode length to the file (total 47 minutes instead of the usual 24 minutes). The Audio is out of sync by roughly 1 second.

Can anyone give me any advise on how to overcome this problem?
Anything kind of info is most appreciated.

Thank You in Advance.

[Migs]

If you guys need more info, please let me know.

[ilovejedd]

Is it just me or is the authoring of most anime DVDs less than superb?

Anyhow, what are you using to rip the subtitles and what format are you ripping to?

By the way, how many episodes are on there? Is PG6 an episode or just an extra? How exactly did you extract single episodes? Did you check and rip just the chapters corresponding to a particular episode?

[RaynQuist]

He's probably checking the chapters he wants.

To OP: I'm guessing you had no problem ripping the first episode but ran into these problems with the second episode. The audio 1 second offset may be due to 29.97 / 30 fps discrepency. The subtitle offset is self-explanatory.

I had the same problem and I gave up trying to do the split at the DVD level. Now I do my splits after encoding and hope the I-frames are there (most of the time they are). You can also do the split before the encode after you rip the whole PGC and that would give you perfect splits, I just never bothered to learn how.

If you're encoding to a target size with 2-pass, splitting after the encode allows the encoder greater freedom in bits distribution.

[driftr]

Why not just rip the whole chain, create a d2v that has the whole 2 hours, and find the start/stop points of the episodes and do a mpeg2source("blah.d2v").trim(start,stopframe)
You can load that in vdub and set the points to create your per ep audio files... subtitles however you want. Dunno just a thought.

[ilovejedd]

I thought about that but then, I thought he might want soft subs (sub/idx) and not hard subs with the MKV. Unfortunately, I'm not at all familiar with subtitle editing programs. I'm sure there's one which can change the timing/offset for the whole thing.

[Migs]

ilovejedd
Anyhow, what are you using to rip the subtitles and what format are you ripping to?
I'm using VsRip so I can have the subtitles in Idx,/sub. format. Simply because the Subtitles are all over the place and making a srt of that is hell (and I have no idea how to make a ass/ssa file either), so idx./sub. is the only easy/hassle-free method that I know of.

By the way, how many episodes are on there?
There are 5 episodes on the first dvd.

Is PG6 an episode or just an extra?
Episode one is in there. Before you ask, I'm checking what are in the other PG sections.

PG1: All 5 episodes are here
PG2: Again, all 5 episodes are here
PG3: Blank. Nothing. Just 2 seconds of Blackness.
PG4: Again, all 5 episodes are here
PG5: Just 2 seconds of Blackness. Again.
PG6: Episode 1 is here

Just to note, there are 14 VTS sections. The bonus material (interviews - uncredited opening and ending - trailers and misc) were located in VTS 2 (FBI Warning and Bandai logo) - VTS 6 (14 minute interview) - VTS 8 (uncredited opening sequence) - VTS 10 (Same trailer in 2 seprate sections) - VTS 12 (Same trailer in 2 seprate sections) and VTS 14 (Same trailer in 2 seprate sections). The other VTS sections ( 1,3,5,7,9,11,13) all contain 2 seconds of Blackness only.

How exactly did you extract single episodes?Did you check and rip just the chapters corresponding to a particular episode?
I selected the amount of cells(chapters) that correcpond to one episode. In this case it's 5. I do this using DVD Decrypter in IFO mode.

RaynQuist
I'm guessing you had no problem ripping the first episode but ran into these problems with the second episode.
Yup! :)
I'll try your suggestion, I did come to that conclusion as well. But I waited for you guys to reply back incase there was another way of doing it.

[ilovejedd]

Hmm, interesting... I've encountered DVDs with all episodes in a single PGC (Rurouni Kenshin, IIRC), but so far I haven't run into your particular problem. I just use VobSub Configure from the VobSub 2.23 package I got from VideoHelp, pretty old, but it does the job. So far, I haven't had sync issues with subs (hard subbed for PSP).

Anyway, I was playing around with subtitles and I noticed the same (VobSub) package had SubResync included. You can use it to change the timing for your .idx file. Provided your only problem is the initial offset, just change the timing for the first line to whatever offset it's supposed to be and the program should adjust the succeeding subtitles accordingly.

By the way, I just noticed this:
When I import them into a MKV container, the subtitle adds and extra episode length to the file
So there's no subtitle sync issue when it's not in MKV?

Another thought (gave VSrip a try), when you were ripping subtitles, you did select just the Vob/Cell IDs corresponding to a particular episode and you had "Reset time at the first selected cell" checked, right?