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Dashiell
17th May 2007, 18:23
Hello Everyone!

This thread is in a way related to my last thread concerning the Shaw Brothers masters.

It's obvious a BBC television show started out as PAL. The R1 DvDs naturally would be converted to NTSC 29.97.

Here's the question:

When converting these episodes to divx, Telecide reports a perfect pattern lock when using this script:

AssumeTFF().Telecide(guide=2,show=true)

(This tells me that it is matching 2:2 pattern guidance perfectly)


Now, if I used a bobber with, say, this script:

DGBob(order=1,mode=1)
RePAL()

Would it produce the same result? Is this accomplishing the same thing with 2 different methods, as I assume it is?

Also, it is my understanding that on the Telecide script since it is a PAL source originally, no decimating is necessary.

If anyone can confirm/clarify I'd appreciate it. :thanks:

Awatef
17th May 2007, 22:56
Do you have the BBC capture, or the R1 DVD?!

Dashiell
18th May 2007, 05:08
I own the R1 Dvds.

scharfis_brain
18th May 2007, 05:29
provide an unprocessed sample from the DVD

Awatef
18th May 2007, 10:41
If it is an R1 DVD, then it is NTSC, not PAL, so there is no way you could guide=2. According to Decomb's documentation, guide=3 would be more appropriate.
But I would go for "nothing", say Telecide() and see what this brings.
If you don't see combing, you're lucky and you proceed to decimating (remove 1 frame out of every 6) to get 24.975fps progressive.
If you see combing, you're out of luck, the conversion has been based on blending, so there is no "proper" deinterlacing method. You'll have to rely on DGbob or whatever you trust (the result is totally different from what you would get with Telecide & Decimate)

Of course, as scharfis stated, a sample will help more than pure theory :)