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clevelandbrowns
11th May 2007, 15:36
Hi,

I am looking for a __SIMPLE__ and free (freeware, windows builtin, etc.) way to transfer DV from a camcorder (panasonic) to my PC (running XP).

I have used some freeware that came with the PC, like SONIC, Windows, etc., but the quality is low.

I have successfully used a DVD-recorder (set top box) with excellent results, but I'd like to use my PC if at all possible. I have read the faq, and understand the steps, but it's just too many steps, too many pieces of software, and too complicated right now.

If there is a simple solution, and it can be had for $30-40, I'd be willing to spend that much.

Oh yeah, and I'm not interested in editing. Just getting it from DV to PC, and then to DVD.

I really don't see why I'm having such a hard time. And I know I'm not the only one. I have 2 friends looking for a similar solution.

THANKS!

Sam

JohnnyMalaria
11th May 2007, 16:20
To transfer DV without quality loss, you need to have a FireWire (IEEE-1394) interface (these are very cheap).

Assuming you do, then you can simply use Windows Movie Maker to do the transfer (it should already be installed on your XP system).

Or, you can use WinDV (very simple) or our Enosoft DV Processor (also very easy to use).

The quality using any of the three options above will be the same.

Since you say you don't want to do any editing, you could by-pass the PC and use a stand-alone DVD recorder. Some even have FireWire input for direct digital transfer. Without it, you can connect the analog outputs from the camcorder to the analog inputs.

clevelandbrowns
11th May 2007, 16:48
I use a fire wire connection to the PC and the DVD standalone.

The quality of xfer to the DVD standalone is excellent. It looks like I'm watching it by playing it from the camcorder.

When I do the xfer with the firewire to the PC using Widows Movie Maker, after I burn the DVD and watch it on my stand alone DVD player, it looks like grainy VHS. What could I be doing wrong? It's just not crisp.

Thanks, Sam

JohnnyMalaria
11th May 2007, 18:59
After you have used Movie Maker to transfer the video to the PC, what do you do? e.g., how do you convert it to MPEG2 for DVD?

clevelandbrowns
11th May 2007, 19:12
Here's where ya got me. Without being in front of my PC at home I can't tell you. I know I've used SONIC with dissapointing results. I know I've used Nero (30 day portion of that piece is now expired) with average results.

I've used some widows component, I think.

I'm assuming this is where I the loss in quality comes from.

Is there a program that can 1) get DV onto computer and then 2) transcode it so it can be burned with just a couple of clicks? I can burn it with nero just fine.

smok3
11th May 2007, 20:10
iam doing it like this sometimes:
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1. windv (allready mentioned) > gives you files on your pc (dv.avi)
2. avisynth, simply:
avisource("dv.avi")
converttoyv12()
(you can use cedocida vfw codec)
3. feed that lil script to hc mpeg2 encoder (but first do try to open it using virtualdub), set some parameters, encode....
4. you can extract audio from dv.avi using virtualdub,
so now you have two files: video.m2v and audio.wav
5. muxman to author the dvd using this two files (gives you proper dvd structure ready for burning)
6. imgburn (or nero) for burning the videodvd > your dvd
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p.s. it may seem like a lot of steps, but one gets real fast after doing it several times, pretty much only thing you will have to read about is HC encoder (but not a lot).

p.s.2. here is lil guide (for my own use basically):
http://somestuff.org/blog/comments.php?y=06&m=01&entry=entry060105-110452

p.s.3. pretty much only material i encode for dvds is progressive, so here you will have to take some extra care with avisynth -> hc path if your materia is interlaced.

bb
12th May 2007, 09:37
[...]Is there a program that can 1) get DV onto computer and then 2) transcode it so it can be burned with just a couple of clicks? I can burn it with nero just fine.
There are several options.


MainConcept MPEG Encoder has a built-in DV module, so you can capture via Firewire and convert to MPEG-2 in realtime. The result is a DVD compliant MPEG-2 file (or two elementary streams for video and audio). Then you need a DVD authoring software to create the DVD structure, which you can burn on a DVD (using Nero).
Several video editors (NLEs) have MPEG-2 encoding (some in realtime) and DVD authoring/burning built-in. Examples are Ulead VideoStudio, or Magix Video DeLuxe.


Because PC users usually want to do a little more than just to transfer the video "somehow" to DVD, there is no single 1-click software that just captures the video via Firewire, converts it to MPEG-2, authors a standard DVD structure, and burns it (as far as I know there is none).

bb

clevelandbrowns
15th May 2007, 01:09
Well, maybe my best option then is to just use a standalone DVD recorder right now.

I just find it hard to believe there are no programs or suites that can do it all (or most - save burning.)

I'll check out some of those programs you mentioned.

Thanks again, Sam

JohnnyMalaria
15th May 2007, 16:31
FYI, Vista comes with Windows Movie Maker and Windows DVD Maker - so you can "do it all" (if you ever switch to Vista).

But - the standalone DVD recorder option makes most sense.

bb
15th May 2007, 20:15
I just stumbled across this one, maybe it's what you are looking for:
http://www.videodvdmaker.com

bb

Mtz
18th May 2007, 14:22
I saw in many forums too many questions regarding DV to DVD. We have a lot of free tools for this but nobody make a simple program to use them for making the DVD. Some free and very good tools are:
- WinDV, Enosoft or Exate for transferring
- mp2enc or toolame or aften for audio conversion
- avisynth
- HC encoder
- DVD Author
- ImgBurn

enjoy,
Mtz

bb
19th May 2007, 07:09
I just tested the Video DVD Maker I mentioned above (free version), and it appears that it can't deal with 16:9 video. Furthermore I wasn't convinced of its stability, because the program decided to hang several times...

bb

setarip_old
19th May 2007, 17:50
@clevelandbrowns

Hi!When I do the xfer with the firewire to the PC using Widows Movie Maker, after I burn the DVD and watch it on my stand alone DVD player, it looks like grainy VHS. What could I be doing wrong? It's just not crisp.Use the excellent one-click freeware package, "DVD Flick" to convert to DVD (including chapters and subtitles, if you wish - but no menu) and burn...

doggge
24th May 2007, 19:37
Here is a nice guide http://dvdguide.ennik.com/ use winDV and grab a large avi file to your computer. After that use the guide on the webpage. Skip the parts:
=2= Capturing video with VirtualDub
and
=7= Authoring the DVD

For menues you use DVDStyler. I hope this helps you.