Plans to make rebuilder into convertor?? [Archive]

jdobbs

7th May 2007, 12:26

Yes. I have a project started called DVD Prebuilder (DVD-PB) that will do just that. It creates a D2VAVS structure that inputs other audio/video files that will then go through the ENCODE and REBUILD phases of DVD Rebuilder -- resulting in a newly authored DVD.

In fact I wrote a lot of DVD-RB initially with that thought in mind.

techreactor

7th May 2007, 12:34

Aha! thats news, but @Lilhobo you can use another tool called DIKO in the meantime.

@Jdobbs, any insight into the release plans of DVD-PB

linx05

7th May 2007, 16:12

Yes, how much will it cost to get that? Or will it be included in DVD-Rebuilder like the mobile encoding feature?

JohnGalt

7th May 2007, 17:59

jdobbs

7th May 2007, 18:01

Yes, how much will it cost to get that? Or will it be included in DVD-Rebuilder like the mobile encoding feature?
Have I ever asked any of the VIPs for more donations?

~bT~

8th May 2007, 00:50

Have I ever asked any of the VIPs for more donations?

Nope but I'd still donate more if this new DVD-PB works well :)
DIKO is good but very buggy.

robot1

8th May 2007, 01:21

Have I ever asked any of the VIPs for more donations?

Your customer satisfaction policy is great
:)

jdobbs

8th May 2007, 01:22

I'm planning to first release it with limited capabilities and then add them a little at a time -- sort of how DVD-RB has evolved.

archaeo

8th May 2007, 02:05

jdobbs,

Will this project also allow AVI files to be fed to RB?

linx05

8th May 2007, 02:38

Have I ever asked any of the VIPs for more donations?
Just say the word and I will. This looks really promising. I've tried a few avi > DVD converters but they all seem to be very slow with the exception of ConvertXtoDVD. I cannot wait to try this thing out!

jdobbs

8th May 2007, 03:21

jdobbs,

Will this project also allow AVI files to be fed to RB?Yes. In fact I would assume that would be the most common input format.

archaeo

8th May 2007, 04:25

:D nice. been looking forward to that one

lilhobo

8th May 2007, 04:46

You might also check out ConvertXtoDVD (http://www.vso-software.fr/products/convert_x_to_dvd/). I tried the trial version -- it seems to work quite well, and it is incredibly simple to use. The latter can also be a drawback -- the program doesn't afford all that much control over the reencoding and dvd building processes; it's essentially a "Wizard." The registered version is 40 USD.

This is really good, it allows you to list the input files you want, then amongst other options, you can specify the TV settings: PAL/NTSC, aspect ratio 4:3/19:6, and the DVD size: DVD-5/9, and the internal encoder fits all files to the disc...

Drawback is it doesnt kick out to an external encoder.

It has menus and chapter allocation every 5 min or what ever setting u set.

for 3 x 800 MB DIVX5/AC3 i am getting 7 hrs encoding

techreactor

8th May 2007, 05:27

Just say the word and I will. This looks really promising. I've tried a few avi > DVD converters but they all seem to be very slow with the exception of ConvertXtoDVD. I cannot wait to try this thing out!

Try Winavi Video convertor (http://www.winavi.com/en/video-converter/video-converter.htm), its extremely fast, support 5.1 audio and the outputs are decent too.

therat

8th May 2007, 08:08

Until the release of DVD-PB you could try the freeware AVI2DVD. It gives you a choice of choosing an external encoder including QuEnc, HCenc, CCE etc. The first 2 are included in the package.

http://www.trustfm.net/divx/SoftwareAvi2Dvd.html

Very easy to install and use, and whilst not as fast as other solutions, the end result is excellent and IMO worth the extra time it takes.

cheers

linx05

8th May 2007, 10:10

Yeah there are a few. CopyXtoDVD, FAVC, DVD Flick ....

~bT~

8th May 2007, 10:29

Yeah there are a few. CopyXtoDVD, FAVC, DVD Flick ....

FAVC supports HC. :)

rendez2k

8th May 2007, 10:30

D2MP is my current fave. Supports most encoders but HC though!

steptoe

8th May 2007, 11:22

I use ConvertXToDVd as its one of the few pieces of software that seems to actually manage to keep audio in synch which can be a major problem when converting divx/xvid back to DVD

Plus handles HDTV video perfectly

I found just leaving it overnight was easiest and let it create the DVD files and use IMGBurn as I don't really trust any other burning engines anymore to do a good job

Bad point is no batch mode, I emailed them asking about this and their answer was we are more interested in adding more video support and minor updates. So thats a no then

There is a kludged freeware solution called ConvertXBatch that I have yet to try out, that was suggested by the guys that wrote convertxtodvd

I've tried DIKO and AVI2DVD, wasn't that impressed. AVI2DVD looks good but as a way overcomplicated, try to achieve everything interface. Going to try AVI2DVD again since just upgrading to AMD 6000 duel core and I now understand video encoding a lot more since using DVD-RB and AVISynth and CCE

Now I can encode in at least double the speed with convertxtodvd, so my next project with DVD-RB Pro will see just what a difference my wad of cash on the upgrade to duel core has made, plus use those super slow but excellant filters and fuctions with AVISynth that were a nightmare to use on my older AMD 3000 Athlon

Finding video software that fully supports duel core and is affordable to average Joe isn't that easy

~bT~

8th May 2007, 12:16

Bad point is no batch mode

This works perfect: http://www.cdr-zone.com/software/div-x_related_software/convertxbatch.html

Mr_Odwin

8th May 2007, 12:48

Just say the word and I will. This looks really promising. I've tried a few avi > DVD converters but they all seem to be very slow with the exception of ConvertXtoDVD. I cannot wait to try this thing out!

I wouldn't say that FAVC is slow - it all depends on the settings that you use (if you use VCD resolution and one pass HC then it'll fly). But the advantage it has over ConvertXtoDVD is the use of exceptional freeware tools like Aften, DGPulldown, Muxman (via Batchmux), etc.

jdobbs

8th May 2007, 13:12

Mr_Odwin

8th May 2007, 13:24

FAVC authors (very simple) dvds using Muxman. Menus are not currently supported but will be in the future (also very simple).

linx05

8th May 2007, 14:05

I wouldn't say that FAVC is slow - it all depends on the settings that you use (if you use VCD resolution and one pass HC then it'll fly). But the advantage it has over ConvertXtoDVD is the use of exceptional freeware tools like Aften, DGPulldown, Muxman (via Batchmux), etc.
I didn't mean to put down FAVC like that. For temp. jobs I might use ConvertXtoDVD but if I were going to do a home movie (something I would want for a long time) I would most probably use FAVC as it is easy to use and utilises the powerful HC encoder.

rendez2k

8th May 2007, 16:31

Do these packages actually have their own authoring engines, or do they require something like Scenarist? When I have simple authoring to do, I still use SpruceUp... it has the simplist interface of any package I've ever seen, but it hasn't been supported in a long, long time.

D2MP uses DVDAuthor to author and create simple menus. I'd like the option though to save out just the encoded streams to author in a separate program myself (such as DVDLab)

archaeo

8th May 2007, 16:59

Up to this point, I've been frameserving the AVI files from VirtualDub directly into CCE, since the AVI files are huge and I would fill up my HD with them otherwise.

I'm wondering if it would also be possible to set up this new DVD PB to accept frameserving as well?

jdobbs

8th May 2007, 17:06

First I need to make it work. ;) I'm barely out of the gate with it.

Boulder

8th May 2007, 17:07

And I'm sure jdobbs will be using Avisynth to frameserve. There's really no need to use VDub for frameserving even without DVD-PB..

archaeo

8th May 2007, 17:58

First I need to make it work. I'm barely out of the gate with it.

yeah, sort of getting ahead of myself there...:p

There's really no need to use VDub for frameserving even without DVD-PB..

@boulder: I use Vdub as a filter editor, not just to frameserve. Vdub provides an excellent interface for editing and is set up to allow easy frameserving to CCE. I do that to avoid huge AVI files on the HD.

jikchung

8th May 2007, 18:45

I have been using SVCD2DVD (http://www.svcd2dvd.com) for years for these type of conversions. It's an all-in-one package, as close to one-click as you can get. Load the .AVI's, layout the menu, wait a couple hours and you have a completed DVD. Very affordable (~$30 US) and the support from the author is on a par with jdobbs.

jdobbs

8th May 2007, 19:47

...and the support from the author is on a par with jdobbs.:scared: Apparently he never sleeps...

jikchung

8th May 2007, 22:41

:scared: Apparently he never sleeps...

It certainly appears so (for the both of you). It doesn't go unappreciated.

somnus

9th May 2007, 09:40

jikchung beat me to it but I was also gonna say SVCD2DVD. I've used it for a long time and it supports almost everything except WMV.

lilhobo

10th May 2007, 05:59

jikchung beat me to it but I was also gonna say SVCD2DVD. I've used it for a long time and it supports almost everything except WMV.

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No direct way for subtitle, inferior output quality, watermark suck, limits for tryout. Free DIKO with CCE or DVD2SVCD still fast, outstanding quality, fast & reliable.

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jikchung

10th May 2007, 15:39

@lilhobo

There were 2 negative posts out of 17, one didn't even try the program, just complained that it was .Net based. Looks like the one you chose to display here was just upset that the program wasn't free ("watermark suck, limits for tryout"). Subtitles are picked up automatically if in the right format.

I have used DIKO and DVD2SVCD. Last I tried DIKO, there was not nearly the control over output as offered by SVCD2DVD and DVD2SVCD will not do menus or support multiple selection per DVD.

So, what is the point of your post?

jdobbs

10th May 2007, 17:44

So, since there are already all these alternatives, would I just be wasting my time continuing? Seems so -- no sense reinventing the wheel...

buzzqw

10th May 2007, 18:29

dvd-rb is a very good programmed AND VERY WELL FUCTIONAL program

i have no doubt (and so those that will download and pay for it) that your professionality will give a huge boost and request for this kind of conversion

BHH

archaeo

10th May 2007, 18:58

So, since there are already all these alternatives, would I just be wasting my time continuing? Seems so -- no sense reinventing the wheel...

No, not in my opinion. One of the great strengths about DVD-RB (besides the authoring support :)) is that it offers such great versatility - I don't have to bounce around with different programs. Adding support for other input formats (such as AVI) is very consistent with it's 'one-click' concept.

just my two-cents :devil:

~bT~

10th May 2007, 19:02

So, since there are already all these alternatives, would I just be wasting my time continuing? Seems so -- no sense reinventing the wheel...

Oh man! I was looking forward to something with a similar interface as DVD-RB which will convert my avi's to DVD using any version CCE or other popular encoders and not forgetting the awesome support you offer.

I'd pay again if needed..

Boulder

10th May 2007, 19:17

I think your record of tireless support already justifies going for it.. DVD-RB has grown a lot in quite a short time, just think about the time when you battled with the stuttering issues and look at where we stand now. So sky's the limit :)

JohnGalt

10th May 2007, 19:19

I'm only familiar with ConvertXtoDVD, which as I said before seems great but somewhat restrictive. Do any of these others (e.g. DIKO or SVCD2DVD) afford integration with AVISYNTH, for instance? Or better control over the encoder, matrices, etc.?

Anyway, no reason to reinvent the wheel, but IMHO ConvertXtoDVD is rather more a sled skid (or whatever preceded the wheel). Sorry, a rather contrived metaphor. :)

jikchung

10th May 2007, 20:12

While I would like to see DVD-RB updated to do this for the CCE support, I would say give the others a try. If they do all you wanted, forget it. If you had other ideas in mind, have at it. I for one would be hapy to make a further donation if this support is added (and yes, I am aware you wouldn't be asking for one).

somnus

10th May 2007, 20:31

I dont think it would be a waste, I'd like to see it. I'd like a one stop program for all my conversion needs. Plus I'd like to be able to use avisynth filters on some of my conversions which I cant do with SVCD2DVD.

I'm only familiar with ConvertXtoDVD, which as I said before seems great but somewhat restrictive. Do any of these others (e.g. DIKO or SVCD2DVD) afford integration with AVISYNTH, for instance? Or better control over the encoder, matrices, etc.?

Anyway, no reason to reinvent the wheel, but IMHO ConvertXtoDVD is rather more a sled skid (or whatever preceded the wheel). Sorry, a rather contrived metaphor. :)

SVCD2DVD does have the use of matrices but not avisynth, not sure about DIKO.

dialysis1

10th May 2007, 20:34

Oh man! I was looking forward to something with a similar interface as DVD-RB which will convert my avi's to DVD using any version CCE or other popular encoders and not forgetting the awesome support you offer.

I'd pay again if needed..

I second that!

Mr_Odwin

11th May 2007, 10:08

~bT~

11th May 2007, 10:12

FAVC allows the user to add to the generated avisynth script, and many of the video encoding options are left to the user. However, simplicity is a goal of mine so not everything is alterable (to keep the GUI relatively clutter free).
Apart from the fact that your prog doesn't support CCE, I've never had any problems. :)

You say that you don't have CCE, wouldn't it be possible to use the trial versions to implement it?
Maybe jdobbs can help you out which will save him reinventing the wheel..

stereo

11th May 2007, 10:56

There's also The Filmmachine http://members.home.nl/thefilmmachine/

It works very well with avi -> DVD (or VCD or SVCD, for that matter), and it supports - at least - CCE and HC. As I recall it (I'm at work right now), it lets you edit the avs script. No menus, however. I use TSUNAMI DVD Author when I need a menu.

rendez2k

11th May 2007, 11:01

The Filmmachine gets very rare updates these days - recently found an issue with MKV files that 'will be updated at some point in the future'. Jdobbs - you should defiantly go ahead with the software. Although there are some good tools, I don't think theres a definitive, well updated tool with all the features people want. And your track record with DVD-RB shows that your willing to frequently update with peoples requests and needs. I'm right behind the project! As I've said before D2MP comes closes for me at the moment, but still has features missing...