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GZZ
25th April 2007, 09:45
Hey all

I have been using DVD-rebuilder pro for quite some time and very happy about it. But I have some areas that I think could be better. So here are my suggestions

1) Why is the option menu cleared, when enabled menu encoding is clicked ? (if you have selected any VTS not to be deinterlaced, then these settings are cleared if enabled menu encoding is clicked)

2) Could it be possible to have the option, only to specify one output folder and then it will create working folder (DVD2AVI) and maybe a OUTPUT folder inside this destination folder.

3) In the Preview/Edit, it would be nice to see a little bit more options. Like if you have a movie, where you want to keep the movie itself untouched and only reencode some extra to fill out the remaining space. Then an option to allocate the remaining space to a specific VTS or single Cell(s) will be nice.

3.1) I have also experience that sometimes when you are tweaking a movie manual, then the Save button gets grayed out, in one movie it was because I set one cell in a VTS to be untouched. Even though the total movie size wasent oversized. This might be a bug.

4) Some movies are oversized and some movies are undersized. If this is because CCE output dosent match the expected output size. If it is, will it then be possible to have an option to let dvdrebuilder reencode this cell, until it match more closly to the expected size. So oversized/Undersized movie dosent happen (or dosent happen to offen). I think dvdrebuilder should be more 'smart' on this area, so it tries to correct the final size, so the total output size will be as close to the size, the user have defined.


That was my suggestions/bugs for upcoming versions of DVD-rebuilder. Please keep up the good work.

TheBreen
25th April 2007, 09:54
Hey all
3) In the Preview/Edit, it would be nice to see a little bit more options. Like if you have a movie, where you want to keep the movie itself untouched and only reencode some extra to fill out the remaining space. Then an option to allocate the remaining space to a specific VTS or single Cell(s) will be nice.

I especially like this idea, since sometimes the 'Feature' does not include the entire film/episode. But only the video set (sometimes incorrectly) identified as the 'Feature' gets the benefit of the reallocate option.

GZZ
25th April 2007, 09:59
I have one more. When you do batch job. When you have pressed start, can it then set focus on the status screen and then make it possible to use the abort button (located beside the Rebuild button) instead. I know this is just to make thing easier for new users. Just an idea I got.

Sharc
25th April 2007, 13:43
Hey all

3) In the Preview/Edit, it would be nice to see a little bit more options. Like if you have a movie, where you want to keep the movie itself untouched and only reencode some extra to fill out the remaining space. Then an option to allocate the remaining space to a specific VTS or single Cell(s) will be nice.

3.1) I have also experience that sometimes when you are tweaking a movie manual, then the Save button gets grayed out, in one movie it was because I set one cell in a VTS to be untouched. Even though the total movie size wasent oversized. This might be a bug.


3) RB-Opt will give you all the options for bitrate distribution and re-allocation. Try it.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=75202

3.1.) Same experience here, some time ago.

wmansir
26th April 2007, 03:44
For number 2 just uncheck "Enable Output Directory" under the Mode menu. Then your working directory will get an OUTPUT subdirectory.

GZZ
26th April 2007, 11:26
Thanks wmansir for your answer..


Regarding No. 4. Is it just me, but my output is sometimes very different. Sometimes I get an output of 4.650.xxx.xxx byte and sometimes on another source I get 4.695.xxx.xxx byte. I use the same CCEtargetsize for all my rips, but how can it be that the output can differ this much, sometimes it even oversize and sometimes its under.

Having DVDrebuilder to re-encode a cell if the outputsize dosnt match will be nice.

Anyone have any thoughts about this ?

Boulder
26th April 2007, 17:43
Do you have adaptive quant matrices enabled?

Fishman0919
26th April 2007, 20:21
4.650.xxx.xxx / 4.650.000.000 = 4.33g

4.695.xxx.xxx / 4.695.000.000 = 4.37g

4.33g with the default DVD-RB setting is about right with CCE SP

Having DVDrebuilder to re-encode a cell if the outputsize dosnt match will be nice.

try doing 3 or more passes with cce... if you are doing 2 passes and having sizing problems you might be running into encoder saturation... adaptive quant matrices enabled with 3-passes will fix that

GZZ
26th April 2007, 21:27
I'm doing 5 pass in CCE and the output size was just an example. What I mean is that the output size is that, if you want the output size to be 4.670.000.000 byte, then all rips should be as close to that, as possible. But alot of times you rip will be 20-50 mb over the the size you expect and sometimes its undersized.

Fishman0919
26th April 2007, 21:55
I'm doing 5 pass in CCE and the output size was just an example. What I mean is that the output size is that, if you want the output size to be 4.670.000.000 byte, then all rips should be as close to that, as possible. But alot of times you rip will be 20-50 mb over the the size you expect and sometimes its undersized.

Mpeg2 encoders are not pin point accurate. CCE with 5 passes should be close but you are never going to get right on. With one encoding you may get 4.32g as a size where the next disc can be 4.34g... and the next 4.31g. Different movies, scenes, anima, dark, bright, fast action all come into play and will make a different on the size. DVD-RB is the software that tells the encoder what to, how to and with what settings to encode... the encoder does the encoding.

But alot of times you rip will be 20-50 mb over the the size you expect and sometimes its undersized.

Yep

GZZ
27th April 2007, 20:14
Do you have adaptive quant matrices enabled?

where do I set this in DVD-rebuilder ?

Boulder
27th April 2007, 20:42
If you don't know, then you don't have it enabled. You need to edit the rebuilder.ini file and add CCEAQM=1 under [Options]. As Fishman0919 said, 3 passes (vaf creation + 2 passes) should fix the issue. Actually I wouldn't call it an issue, it's just that you can never get the exact bitrate you want to.

jdobbs
27th April 2007, 22:58
4) Some movies are oversized and some movies are undersized. If this is because CCE output dosent match the expected output size. If it is, will it then be possible to have an option to let dvdrebuilder reencode this cell, until it match more closly to the expected size. So oversized/Undersized movie dosent happen (or dosent happen to offen). I think dvdrebuilder should be more 'smart' on this area, so it tries to correct the final size, so the total output size will be as close to the size, the user have defined.Which is why you need the "buffer" related to the standard output size. If you are getting that large I would be inclined to believe you have probably changed the target sectors. (In 1600+ DVDs I have never gotten an oversize with CCE -- and CCEAQM will only prevent undersizing on very high bitrate encodes).

jdobbs
28th April 2007, 11:51
1) Why is the option menu cleared, when enabled menu encoding is clicked ? (if you have selected any VTS not to be deinterlaced, then these settings are cleared if enabled menu encoding is clicked) Because selecting or deselecting menu encoding changes the VTS, audio, and subtitle lists. In other words, it is like reselecting another disc because you have dramatically changed the selection and encoding criteria. You are more-or-less saying you are "starting over" on that disc.