DVD Rebuilder Stuck at 98.3%-No error message

[bappida69]

Hi,

This is a very peculiar situation. I used DVD Rebuilder (with CCE SP v 2.70)on my machine a number of times.(though the last was about 6 months back). I tried using the same recently for backing up my movie.Everything seemed to go well. Phase 2 encoding started and completed about 98.3%. And one of the second last files (.vaf file) shows up as 100%. Unfortunately, it is remaining this way for the past 2 hours. The only option that I see on the screen is Abort(which I do not want to use becasue it took almost 12 hours for me to get to this position-old machine:confused:

Any idea what the issue could be(everything else on the computer is working normally). Anything to kick start this??

There are no error messages.

Thanks in advance!!

[Rippraff]

Well I can't tell anything about the reason but
The only option that I see on the screen is Abort(which I do not want to use becasue it took almost 12 hours for me to get to this position-old machine:confused:
there is no risk to hit 'Abort'.
Exit RB, restart your machine (if there might be something unstable), restart RB, make sure you're running in 3-Click-Mode (1-Click-Mode under 'Mode' unticked), if you're working with RB Pro hit 'Rebuild', if you're working with RB Free hit 'Encode', answer the appearing resume question with yes.

Cu Rippraff

[jdobbs]

It sounds like the encoder hung and DVD-RB is waiting for it to finish...

[blutach]

This just happened to me. The encoder (I used HC) was saturated (high BR was 9098, average 8084).

If this is the case, bappida69, change your ECL file with lower numbers and re-encode that segment then rebuild.

Regards

[bappida69]

This just happened to me. The encoder (I used HC) was saturated (high BR was 9098, average 8084).

If this is the case, bappida69, change your ECL file with lower numbers and re-encode that segment then rebuild.

Regards

Er..how does one do what you suggested:confused: I am a newbie in this respect. Thanks!

[blutach]

Look for the segment that stopped in the Rebuilder.ECL file in the D2VAVS directory. This file can be opened in Wordpad.

Lower the encoder bitrates for that segment (you will see high and avg) by 500. Save.

Start DVDRB again and it should start to re-encode at the bad segment.

If it doesn't, you'll need to re-encode manually. RME might be able to help here - haven't used it in a while though.

Regards

[jdobbs]

This just happened to me. The encoder (I used HC) was saturated (high BR was 9098, average 8084).

If this is the case, bappida69, change your ECL file with lower numbers and re-encode that segment then rebuild.

RegardsHow did that happen? DVD Rebuilder defaults to a maximum bitrate of 9000Kbs.

[blutach]

Not sure Jerry. I didn't keep the ECL, but do remember the max was over 9,000. It was a menu segment, which was already encoded at a very high bitrate.

Regards

[jdobbs]

Have you possibly set the "MAX_BITRATE=" value in your INI?

[blutach]

No. Should I?

Regards

[archaeo]

@bappida69


I think it might help to mention that you're using DVDRB v64, as you have in the other forum at videohelp.com:


Actually not. I am just using the same DVD RB(v 0.64) and CCE SP combo which I was using earlier on for backing up. Its just that I had not used this for almost 6 months or so.

[jdobbs]

No. Should I?

Regards
No. But it could be raised there and possibly make it go above the default.

[jdobbs]

@bappida69


I think it might help to mention that you're using DVDRB v64, as you have in the other forum at videohelp.com:
@bappida69

Wow, that's old. Upgrade to something a lot more current. That was a relatively early beta version from Oct 2004... you can download v.98.2 here. (http://www.jdobbs.com/Pages/Downloads.htm)

[bappida69]

@bappida69

Wow, that's old. Upgrade to something a lot more current. That was a relatively early beta version from Oct 2004... you can download v.98.2 here. (http://www.jdobbs.com/Pages/Downloads.htm)

ok. will do. :thanks:

[FredThompson]

I've seen similar "hangs" with Pro 1.24.0 and multiple sources. Each time, I was using HC 0.20. HC, itself, has gotten hung up but also the completion percentage sometimes doesn't get to 100% for phase 2 of DVD-RB Pro. Currently, I had to hit the abort button and restarted phased II encoding. The really odd thing was 1.24.0 went backwards about 10 segments. Really odd. My hunch was HC was the only issue but this going backwards points to some other weirdness.

-- update --

I suspect there is a bug in HC 0.20. I let the entire project finish and copied all the segments after the one which made HC 0.20 hang, replaced HC with the previous version, restarted phase II encoding, aborted after the problem segment was complete, overwrote the "new" versions of the encoded segments, adjusted Encode_Progress in Rebuilder.ini so the last couple of short segments would be re-encoded then restarted phase II encoding.

IMNSHO, HC 0.19.0.1 should be used only when these problems happen because 0.20 is more optimized. On my dual-core Intel, 0.20 runs about 3x faster than 0.19.0.1 and there are probably other improvements "under the hood."

[jdobbs]

Really odd. My hunch was HC was the only issue but this going backwards points to some other weirdness.I'll go back and look... but I don't think there has been any changes in the code for calling the encoder(s) in a long, long time...

Unfortunately there isn't much I can think of that I can do when an encoder hangs. DVD-RB simply calls the O/S and ask for the process exit code. If it says "still active", it continues to wait. I suppose I could give it a time limit and then kill the current encode process and start it over... but how long would that be? Some segments are tiny, and some are huge, some processors are fast and others are slow.

[FredThompson]

I think what happens in an instance of HC hangs so that segment is never acknowledged as being complete. DVD-RB Pro continues running other instances on later segments.

The only thing I can imagine you might want to do is reconsider use of the single variable Encode_Progress to better reflect multiple encoders. If instance 1 is working on a very long segment and other instances are plowing ahead working on lots of short segments, there's no benefit to re-encoding those segments if the user aborts or the encoder hangs.

The hanging I've seen looks like a bug in 0.20 which is, as you mention, outside your control.

[jdobbs]

That makes sense. Currently when DVD-RB resumes encoding, it will start over at the last segment that wasn't successfully completed -- so when multiple encoder sequences are used, you will reencode any that fell sequentially behind it. Of course, in a perfect world where segments were fairly close in length that would only typically be one segment.

[sockeye]

I think what happens in an instance of HC hangs so that segment is never acknowledged as being complete. DVD-RB Pro continues running other instances on later segments.


The hanging I've seen looks like a bug in 0.20 which is, as you mention, outside your control.

I ran into this problem a couple of weeks ago, during a batch conversion, and I can confirm that this is correct. Rebuilder was hung at 90 some percent. One instance of HC was hung on a segement that was several from the end. I tried again, starting at the prepare stage, monitoring the progress from the problem vts, and HC hung again at the same title set, but the other instance continued on, encoding the remaining segements.
I made a third attempt, this time using QuEnc, which made it through the problematic vts without hanging.
At the time I felt the problem was probably due to preprocessing with other proggies, so did not mention it on the forum.

[blutach]

Try to process it with HC alone using the HC.ini. Check the input parameters - make sure the BR is not too high. If you turn off VBV, I bet it will encode!

Regards

[FredThompson]

It turns out this is a bug in HC. Hank has a sample and has identified the problem.

[jdobbs]

Interesting. I wonder what it is? I've been using HC every night in my testing because I wanted to repeat it -- but it has never happened...

[FredThompson]

The problem is a VBR issue with a series of very small frames followed by complex frames. It has happened to me with closing credits followed by splash graphics in the same segment.

[blutach]

Interesting - the menu segment it happened to me on also ended in a splash graphic. But mine definintely saturated the encoder.

Regards

[hank315]

The problem is a VBR issue with a series of very small frames followed by complex frames. It has happened to me with closing credits followed by splash graphics in the same segment.
I couldn't reproduce it but I got a similar clip from Boulder which made it hang... so yes it can happen, but it's very rare...
It's solved now, a new release will be out in a few days.

[jacota]

the same happens to me also. i use rebuilder pro 1.25 and encoder cce basic. use 1 click mode. rebuilder stops at 93.8% with the message:

error updating NAVPACK(23:03:05) 00038 00007

rebuilder then aborts. no option. can anyone help.

richard

[jdobbs]

1. What disc are you trying to backup?
2. What did you use to rip it?
3. Did you do any preprocessing?

That is an "Out of Memory" error. A good guess might be a bad rip...

[jacota]

1. What disc are you trying to backup? elizabeth 1 with helen mirran

2. What did you use to rip it? dvd decrypter

3. Did you do any preprocessing? no preprocessing--selected movie only in rebuilder

thanks
richard

[jdobbs]

Try ripping with DVD Fab Decrypter (it's free). There are a lot of discs that just can't be ripped with DVD Decrypter these days.

[jacota]

i ripped the same movie with dvd fab and had no problems with rebuilder. thanks very much.

richard