Help installing X-Box HD-DVD drive

[Roscoe62]

I figured I'd better post this in the newbies section because no-one else appeared to have any difficulty in getting this to work.:confused:

I'm running this on a WindowsXP + SP2 machine. The CPU is a dual-core Athlon, with a gig of fast RAM and an HDCP capable video card (Asus 7600GT).

Before plugging the HD-DVD drive in, I made sure to take all the High-Priority MS updates via windows update. Then I plugged the unit in and connected the USB cable to an available USB port.

It found the unit OK, and I saw a whole bunch of install windows and it is connected OK. However it shows up in Windows Explorer as a CD drive and even if I have an HD-DVD disk in the drive if I click the drive I get the error message K:\ is not accessible. Access is denied.

If I look at if via the Device Manager it shows up in the DVD/CD Rom drive category as a Toshiba DVD/HD X807616 USB Device.

When I tried to use BackupHDDVD C#, as soon as I pressed the "Start Backup" button, it did a disk hash, found the movie in the database, got to scanning video directory and then I got an error message "Access to the path 'K:\HVDVD_TS' is denied. Once I clicked on the OK button, I got a "BackupHDDVD has to close" box - not good.

Then I tried DumpHD - got similar errors -

"No Titlekey / CPS Unit Key Files Found
Error initializing AACS, skipping disc set

Hmmm.....I'm seeing a pattern here :(

Finally tried DVDFabDecrypter HD - and that fell over as well.

Later I found the UDF 2.5 driver on the net and installed that in the hopes that that would at least allow me to browse files, but that hasn't worked either. I still get the access denied error.

I'm really at my wits' end here. I think the problem is most likely either the XBox HD-DVD driver but I've got no idea what to do now.

Is there anyone out there who can help?

[sporic]

I figured I'd better post this in the newbies section because no-one else appeared to have any difficulty in getting this to work.:confused:

I'm running this on a WindowsXP + SP2 machine. The CPU is a dual-core Athlon, with a gig of fast RAM and an HDCP capable video card (Asus 7600GT).

Before plugging the HD-DVD drive in, I made sure to take all the High-Priority MS updates via windows update. Then I plugged the unit in and connected the USB cable to an available USB port.

It found the unit OK, and I saw a whole bunch of install windows and it is connected OK. However it shows up in Windows Explorer as a CD drive and even if I have an HD-DVD disk in the drive if I click the drive I get the error message K:\ is not accessible. Access is denied.

If I look at if via the Device Manager it shows up in the DVD/CD Rom drive category as a Toshiba DVD/HD X807616 USB Device.

When I tried to use BackupHDDVD C#, as soon as I pressed the "Start Backup" button, it did a disk hash, found the movie in the database, got to scanning video directory and then I got an error message "Access to the path 'K:\HVDVD_TS' is denied. Once I clicked on the OK button, I got a "BackupHDDVD has to close" box - not good.

Then I tried DumpHD - got similar errors -

"No Titlekey / CPS Unit Key Files Found
Error initializing AACS, skipping disc set

Hmmm.....I'm seeing a pattern here :(

Finally tried DVDFabDecrypter HD - and that fell over as well.

Later I found the UDF 2.5 driver on the net and installed that in the hopes that that would at least allow me to browse files, but that hasn't worked either. I still get the access denied error.

I'm really at my wits' end here. I think the problem is most likely either the XBox HD-DVD driver but I've got no idea what to do now.

Is there anyone out there who can help?

I'm a newbie like you... I tried posting a similar query in the Decrypting forum but got flamed for posting a noob question there. Thats a real shame as I think our queries are pretty basic and those guys there can probably solve it in minutes. But unfortunately for us, those pro's don't visit the noobs section so its kind of hard to get help here. I feel for you.

[olivierdb]

I'm a newbie like you guys and I don't see why it didn't work according to this hack article (http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2006/11/8303/)!

I suggest you first uninstall the UDF driver file as well as the CD-ROM detected and download the UDF driver recommended in the article above. Next, disconnect the HD-DVD drive from your PC. Switch your PC off. Plug the HD-DVD drive in a USB port on your PC. Switch on again. XP should detect new hardware and prompt you to install a driver for the "new" device. Select the UDF driver.

N.B. I haven't tried this, coz I have Vista! So I wish you good luck.

[awhitehead]

I'm a newbie like you guys and I don't see why it didn't work according to this hack article (http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2006/11/8303/)!

I suggest you first uninstall the UDF driver file as well as the CD-ROM detected and download the UDF driver recommended in the article above. Next, disconnect the HD-DVD drive from your PC. Switch your PC off. Plug the HD-DVD drive in a USB port on your PC. Switch on again. XP should detect new hardware and prompt you to install a driver for the "new" device. Select the UDF driver.

N.B. I haven't tried this, coz I have Vista! So I wish you good luck.

A couple of corrections, if I may.

The fact that your drive was detected by Windows XP means that it is connected and working. If you put in a regular DVD, I bet it would be accessible by the operating system.

However Blu-Ray and HD-DVD disks use a different, newer, filesystem then standard DVDs, and Windows XP doesn't have built in support for it (I believe that Vista does). You should go and download the UDF 2.5 filesystem driver from uneasysilence (link above), install it, and reboot.

Then your computer will be able to read the HD-DVD disks, and aacskeys and DumpHD would both work.

Hope this helps.

*sigh* I guess I should write an FAQ or step by step guide or something.

[Roscoe62]

A couple of corrections, if I may.

The fact that your drive was detected by Windows XP means that it is connected and working. If you put in a regular DVD, I bet it would be accessible by the operating system.

However Blu-Ray and HD-DVD disks use a different, newer, filesystem then standard DVDs, and Windows XP doesn't have built in support for it (I believe that Vista does). You should go and download the UDF 2.5 filesystem driver from uneasysilence (link above), install it, and reboot.

Then your computer will be able to read the HD-DVD disks, and aacskeys and DumpHD would both work.

Hope this helps.

*sigh* I guess I should write an FAQ or step by step guide or something.

Awhitehead,

Thanks for stepping in.

What you say about the drive being detected by XP makes sense, and to test it, I put an ordinary DVD into the drive. Sure enough, I can happily read the contents of the DVD. So it seems the UDF drivers are not working as expected. According to the notes that come with the drivers, all I have to do is (after Un-raring them of course) to right-click the .inf file and choose install from the menu.

I have done this, AND rebooted, but I cannot read the contents of any HD-DVD I put into the drive. I keep getting the access denied error.

Not sure what else I have to do. I would attempt to uninstall & reinstall the UDF drivers, but I wouldn't know where to find them. They certainly don't appear in the Add/Remove programs software list.

Again, any advice is appreciated.

EDIT - Further proof (as if I needed any) that something's wrong is that when I try to use PowerDVD to play an HD-DVD disk all I get is about 1 second of what looks like an FBI warning, and then I get an error message about my graphics driver not being compatible.

If I use the PowerDVD Advisor, I'm all green except for the Video Connection Type : Digital (without HDCP). That in itself is weird because both my videocard and my monitor both claim to be HDCP compliant, but that might be a separate issue. In any case, the Graphic Card driver gets a green light, so that's certainly not helping me to understand what the problem is.

[olivierdb]

If this (http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1097&l1=2&l2=6&l3=271) is your graphics card, I'm afraid it doesn't support HDCP!

Try using AnyDVD HD. That should solve your problem.

[foxyshadis]

Nvidia and ATI caught a lot of flak a year ago, when the first HDCP monitor/TVs started shipping and everyone realized that all the cards that had been advertised as HDCP-ready for years actually didn't support it at all. All of the board-builders had been too cheap to actually put the chip required for HDCP playback on them. So nothing released before last summer or so actually supports it.

[Roscoe62]

If this (http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1097&l1=2&l2=6&l3=271) is your graphics card, I'm afraid it doesn't support HDCP!

Try using AnyDVD HD. That should solve your problem.

Fortunately for me, that's not my graphics card. This (http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=2&l2=6&l3=271&model=1175&modelmenu=1) is my graphics card. The fact that Asus still have HDCP compliant written all over it gives me some degree of comfort.

However, we've kind of drifted off the subject of this thread, and that is trying to determine what needs to be done to allow me (and hopefully others) to read HD-DVD disks from the X-Box HD-DVD drive. I'm guessing it's got something to do with the UDF drivers not working, but I'm still in the dark as to why they're not working, and what can be done to fix it.

Again, any help is appreciated.

[SvT]

According to the notes that come with the drivers, all I have to do is (after Un-raring them of course) to right-click the .inf file and choose install from the menu.

I have done this, AND rebooted, but I cannot read the contents of any HD-DVD I put into the drive. I keep getting the access denied error.

Not sure what else I have to do. I would attempt to uninstall & reinstall the UDF drivers, but I wouldn't know where to find them. They certainly don't appear in the Add/Remove programs software list.

Again, any advice is appreciated.


Try removing the drive from your device list ! When rebooting the drive gets detected. Make sure you "feed" it the right UDF drivers. This should work......

[Roscoe62]

Quote: Try removing the drive from your device list ! When rebooting the drive gets detected.

So you're saying, disconnect the USB cable, reboot and then reconnect? Or did you mean more than that?

Quote: Make sure you "feed" it the right UDF drivers. This should work......


So do you think my PC will ask for drivers again? Is that what you mean?

For the moment, I'll assume "yes" and I'll try it tonight.

Thanks. :)

[SvT]

Quote: Try removing the drive from your device list ! When rebooting the drive gets detected.

So you're saying, disconnect the USB cable, reboot and then reconnect? Or did you mean more than that?

Quote: Make sure you "feed" it the right UDF drivers. This should work......


So do you think my PC will ask for drivers again? Is that what you mean?

For the moment, I'll assume "yes" and I'll try it tonight.

Thanks. :)

No it means opening your hardwarelist and rightclick on the drive when attached ! This should give you the option to remove the drive/drivers. Now you can install again with the correct drivers !

Goodluck

[Roscoe62]

Aah, OK, so you're talking about the Device Manager?

So I should do an uninstall and a reinstall with the UDF drivers?

OK, I'll give that a shot.

[mrazzido]

hey !

does any1 tried xbox hd dvd with a JAE 50 adapter , the original xbox hd dvd JAE 50 adapter inside the case is defect/ broken . ( or does any one have another photo of this. i try to build my own cable , i need to know which cable is the mini usb port. .)

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2319/hdopen7bighhhhhhsi2.jpg



i tried windows regognize the drive. i open the drive with nero ehhe. no open button then on the drive :-D .

but the drive didn load the disc. :-/

UDF driver installeD!!!

[mrazzido]

have any1 better pictures (INSIDE THE CASE ) from the HD DVD Drive from xbox i need help! Got a Broken HD DVD From EBAY driv is okay!

the CASE was broken , and the cables inside the case ( for USB ) a missing i need pictures inside the case to Build my own cable.

the pictures is to small i cant see all cables !

PLS ANY 1


http://uneasysilence.com/XBoxHDDVD/DSC00862.jpg

this is to small need bigger picture! THX!

thx in advance!!!

[Roscoe62]

I thought I'd better reply back here just in case someone else was following this thread with the same problem - can't read the files directly from the HD-DVD drive.

For me, the culprit was Nero's InCD appication. I think my version number is 4.3.23 or something similar. Anyway, it's the version that shipped with Nero 6. As well as removing it from the startup applications using msconfig, I also completely uninstalled the application from the control panel and rebooted. Then I re-installed the UDF2.5 drivers mentioned in the uneasy silence article (you'll find that earlier in this thread) and rebooted again. This time bingo! Instead of seeing just my drive letter, I noticed I was now seeing the title of the movie disk I had in the drive, and when I clicked on the drive I can now see the contents!

Hopefully this is helpful for others! :)