Got VolumeID without AACS authentication :)

[Jeremy Duncan]

Destroying DRM is not my bag of tea.
It's offensive to a person to a point that is akin to personal space.
I'm not saying which person is too close to whom and who is offending whom, I'll let you figure that out.

Thank you all for your time.
I don't want to disturb your Nirvana Zen.

[Geremia]

BTW, regarding the LBA boundaries

0x40220 is the last LBA of disc, 00DBA9BF for kingkong
changing to FFFFFFFF makes boundary checks pass. negative LBA begins at FFFFFFFF and backward

first enable DF command, then

plscsi.exe -v -p -x "DF 00 E3 00 04 02 20 04 02 23 FF FF"

you can use iisobuster to read negative LBA sectors, but this not allow to read the system lead-in area, but it's good for any other purpose

[Galileo2000]

Destroying DRM is not my bag of tea.
It's offensive to a person to a point that is akin to personal space.
I'm not saying which person is too close to whom and who is offending whom, I'll let you figure that out.

Thank you all for your time.
I don't want to disturb your Nirvana Zen.

I suggest you return to your regular activities and won't post on this thread, or even better, on this forum.

[blutach]

Please let it rest guys. Galileo2000, please observe rule 4.

Now, back on topic please.

Regards

[mrazzido]

Hello! does any1 checked TS-L802A notebook hd dvd drive .

is there the same firmware bug availble?

i upload two firmwares (-bin) file CLICK DL (http://www.sendspace.com/file/wux13c)

[awhitehead]

Geremia, you were talking about laser power and pit sizes earlier, so maybe you know....

(If anyone else knows, feel free to jump in)

Here is my situation: I have an HD-DVD disk, that is readable in one HD-DVD drive (Toshiba SD-S802A), and not readable in another HD-DVD drive (NEC HR-1100A). Other HD-DVD disks are read by both.

When I say "not readable", I don't mean "not playable by software", etc, I mean that one ODD can read the bytes on disk and the other one can't

I verified sending the following CDBs to the drive using plscsi:

plscsi -v -x "25 00 00:00:00:00 00 00:00 00" -i 8 (READ CAPACITY)

plscsi -v -x "28 00 00:00:00:10 00 00:01 00" -i x800 (READ(10) 2048 bytes of the disk starting at address 16 (should be first block on disk))

Toshiba returns valid data, NEC returns AE's.

Is this a problem due to laser power? Bad mastering? Something else?

The title in question is French release of "Stalingrad" ("Enemy at the Gates") by Fox Pathe/Studio Canal. It doesn't have AACS encryption on the disk, and BCA is full of 00s.

[arnezami]

I guess this is the best place to put this.

New version of: fetchvid v0.2 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/opr4w7)

Some big changes:

- Generally more sublte and cleaner so its probably more reliable
- Time in ms (which is better)
- Works for BluRay too! (well it should, please test)
- You can examine the behaviour of your player+drive first and adjust your time setting to that.
- Removed the lower/higher advise because it seemed to disrupt proper working (possibly due to interference with new player version).

Basicly this is the BluRay equivalent of a Volume ID "hack". You need a working Software Player for this to work.

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5937/fetchvid02fw0.png

It should work on any drive and any software player :D.

Please test this for BD ;)...

arnezami

[PepsiLee2001]

I try to test fetchvid v0.2 for Blu-ray & HD-DVD.

for HD-DVD (work fine)

G:\fetchvid 0.2>fetchvid.exe L
fetchvid v0.2.
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a HD DVD disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
vid: 400025061303183157474844564D0000


for blu-ray

G:\fetchvid 0.2>fetchvid.exe m
fetchvid v0.2.
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.




for blu-ray

G:\fetchvid 0.2>fetchvid.exe m 1000 5
fetchvid v0.2.
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 5
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 15078 ms
Player is accessing drive: 2
Player has stopped using drive: 56562 ms
Player is accessing drive: 3
Player has stopped using drive: 13328 ms
Player is accessing drive: 4
Player has stopped using drive: 14078 ms
Player is accessing drive: 5


PowerDVD 7.3 play & stop 5 time, but still can't get vid.

[arnezami]

I try to test fetchvid v0.2 for Blu-ray & HD-DVD.

for HD-DVD (work fine)

G:\fetchvid 0.2>fetchvid.exe L
fetchvid v0.2.
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a HD DVD disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
vid: 400025061303183157474844564D0000


for blu-ray

G:\fetchvid 0.2>fetchvid.exe m
fetchvid v0.2.
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.




for blu-ray

G:\fetchvid 0.2>fetchvid.exe m 1000 5
fetchvid v0.2.
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 5
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 15078 ms
Player is accessing drive: 2
Player has stopped using drive: 56562 ms
Player is accessing drive: 3
Player has stopped using drive: 13328 ms
Player is accessing drive: 4
Player has stopped using drive: 14078 ms
Player is accessing drive: 5


PowerDVD 7.3 play & stop 5 time, but still can't get vid.

Hmm. Looks like it accesses the drive for like 13-15 (or 60) seconds. How long does it take for your movie to Bluray to startup? Or does fetchvid interfere/prevent it from playing? Or is it already playing the movie when you see these numbers come along? And how long did it take for it to give the "Could not retrieve" error message the first time?

Have you tried raising/lowering the time value?

Its possible that your BD drive is capable of multiple AGIDs at the same time which might explain this behaviour. But its kinda weird. Make sure you really shut down your player before starting fetchvid.

What brand/model drive do you have?

Also try this version (v0.2.1):

http://www.sendspace.com/file/i4ah2p

It should give AGID (debugging) messages if more than one AGID is used.

arnezami

[PepsiLee2001]

Hmm. Looks like it accesses the drive for like 13-15 (or 60) seconds. How long does it take for your movie to Bluray to startup? Or does fetchvid interfere/prevent it from playing? Or is it already playing the movie when you see these numbers come along? And how long did it take for it to give the "Could not retrieve" error message the first time?

Have you tried raising/lowering the time value?

Its possible that your BD drive is capable of multiple AGIDs at the same time which might explain this behaviour. But its kinda weird. Make sure you really shut down your player before starting fetchvid.

What brand/model drive do you have?



fetchvid 0.21 testing result.

OS : WinXP SP2
BD Drive : LiteOn LH-2B1S
blu-ray disc : 2007 DTS-HD Master Audio Presentation Disc

default argument

G:\fetchvid_0.21>fetchvid.exe m
fetchvid v0.2.1
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 1




G:\fetchvid_0.21>fetchvid.exe m 20000 1
fetchvid v0.2.1
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 20000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.



PowerDVD 7.3 is playing normally.

G:\fetchvid_0.21>fetchvid.exe m 15000 3
fetchvid v0.2.1
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 15000 ms
Wait until access moment: 3
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 2
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 9797 ms
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 2
AGID other than 0!: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 18563 ms
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 3

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.



aacskeys 0.24 work fine
G:\aacskeys_v0.2.4>aacskeys m n
aacskeys v0.2.4

First C-value: 459DE09775A9E7442416637D03D00552
First u mask nr: 17
First uv: 00000001
Volume Unique Key: 61B6A65446D6F1AF353F5F7AF7E546D6
Unit Key File Hash (DiscID): 2CCC522CE0C26F04F4015FFF9D3EE9D4E80DA43D

[arnezami]

fetchvid 0.21 testing result.

OS : WinXP SP2
BD Drive : LiteOn LH-2B1S
blu-ray disc : 2007 DTS-HD Master Audio Presentation Disc

default argument

G:\fetchvid_0.21>fetchvid.exe m
fetchvid v0.2.1
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 1




G:\fetchvid_0.21>fetchvid.exe m 20000 1
fetchvid v0.2.1
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 20000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.



PowerDVD 7.3 is playing normally.

G:\fetchvid_0.21>fetchvid.exe m 15000 3
fetchvid v0.2.1
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 15000 ms
Wait until access moment: 3
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 2
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 9797 ms
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 2
AGID other than 0!: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 18563 ms
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 3

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.



aacskeys 0.24 work fine
G:\aacskeys_v0.2.4>aacskeys m n
aacskeys v0.2.4

First C-value: 459DE09775A9E7442416637D03D00552
First u mask nr: 17
First uv: 00000001
Volume Unique Key: 61B6A65446D6F1AF353F5F7AF7E546D6
Unit Key File Hash (DiscID): 2CCC522CE0C26F04F4015FFF9D3EE9D4E80DA43D

Ok. This clarifies it a lot. :) Clearly your drive is capable of using mutiple AGIDs (which is not supported atm). I will try to see if I can make this work for these kinds of drives too.

arnezami

[arnezami]

@PepsiLee2001 (or anybody else with a BD drive):

Try this new version.

fetchvid v0.2.2 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/raxm6n)

Hopefully this works for drives capabale of multiple AGIDs. Basicly it shuts down the other 3 AGIDs before it begins.

arnezami

[mrazzido]

good morning :-D from here..


it test it on BD in 1-2hours new disc then arrived :-D

[PepsiLee2001]

@PepsiLee2001 (or anybody else with a BD drive):

Try this new version.

fetchvid v0.2.2 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/raxm6n)

Hopefully this works for drives capabale of multiple AGIDs. Basicly it shuts down the other 3 AGIDs before it begins.

arnezami

fetchvid 0.2.2 still not work fine.

G:\fetchvid_0.22>fetchvid.exe m 12000 2
fetchvid v0.2.2

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 12000 ms
Wait until access moment: 2
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 11844 ms
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 2

[arnezami]

fetchvid 0.2.2 still not work fine.

G:\fetchvid_0.22>fetchvid.exe m 12000 2
fetchvid v0.2.2

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 12000 ms
Wait until access moment: 2
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 11844 ms
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 2

Argh. It seems PowerDVD is screwing with (eh invalidating) unused AGIDs. That kinda sucks. This is a lot harder than hoped since I now have to dynamicly account for agids.

Try this new version:

fetchvid v0.2.3 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/td3e1n)

arnezami

PS. I almost have to go now :).

[arnezami]

Whoops. I think I made a mistake there. Here is the hopefully working one:

fetchvid v0.2.4 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/cm623t)

This one will probably not work for HD DVD drive though.

arnezami

PS. Really have to go now ;).

[PepsiLee2001]

Whoops. I think I made a mistake there. Here is the hopefully working one:

fetchvid v0.2.4 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/cm623t)

This one will probably not work for HD DVD drive though.


0.2.4 have other problem...


E:\fetchvid_0.24>fetchvid.exe f 12000 2
fetchvid v0.2.4

Error determining drive type: assuming HD DVD
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 12000 ms
Wait until access moment: 2
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1

[mrazzido]

sometimes the tools writes HD-DVD like pepsilee2001

and sometimes BD DISC.

i use both software (powerdvd/windvd) on my LIteon BD SATA Burner.


doenst work.

to get an ID

[arnezami]

Ok. This is going to be hard and a lot of going back and forth. I need lots of feed back. So please always post a screenshot or copy paste the results. And also tell if it "hangs" and when (and when/if the player is playing etc). This might not seem like important information to you but it is to me. I'm trying to do someting with a drive it wasn't designed to do and I do not even have this drive! Thats very hard. But I believe its possible and worth the effort.

Here is a slightly better version:

fetchvid v0.2.5 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/os2orw) (don't try this with xbox drive, won't work)

I don't quite understand why it sometimes doesn't see the MKB_RO.inf file (which is how it checks if its a bluray disc). Are there BD discs you tried that don't have that file? Anyway I've changed it so if it doesn't find this file now it will default to Bluray (instead of HD DVD). Which should solve this problem for the moment.

I've also changed the vid retrieval (earlier I only tried AGID 0 which would only work 25% of the time so this way it might look like it didn't work at all). Please try different parameters.

Awaiting your test results :).

arnezami

PS. Also: does the "Player is accessing drive: 1" come before or after the player starts (playing)?

[arnezami]

@mrazzido: thanks for the feedback. I can now see your drive supports 3 AGIDs (not 4 like I assumed earlier). Later on it will have to detect this automatically. But for now I've hardwired it to try only 3.

fetcvid v0.2.6 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/y8u25g)

Please test this version and report back your results.

arnezami

[mrazzido]

fetchvid i 1000
0
fetchvid v0.2.6

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 0
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1


fetchvid i 1000
2
fetchvid v0.2.6

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 2
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1







i think its an error

[arnezami]

fetchvid i 1000
0
fetchvid v0.2.6

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 0
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1


fetchvid i 1000
2
fetchvid v0.2.6

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 2
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1

i think its an error
Its a debug message. What happens if you start the player?

Well. At least it seems to be acting sensible now.

Anyway: here is a new version without this debug message and better volume id retrieval.

fetchvid v0.2.7 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/gbem6s)

Please try this.

arnezami

PS. When testing its better to set "Wait until access moment" at atleast 1.

[mrazzido]

i am testing... ~5min


------




Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 15000 ms
Wait until access moment: 3
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 37016 ms
Player is accessing drive: 2
Player has stopped using drive: 29484 ms
Player is accessing drive: 3

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different ti
me setting.

-- Tip: run fetchvid setting a high wait "until access moment"
This will show you the amount of times the drive is accessed
and for how long. Keep in mind when doing this you have
to use Ctrl-C to stop fetchvid... sorry ;). --

So close the software player and start fetchvid with a new wait value.





does this only work with power dvd , the prog only regonize push play on powerdvd , / windvd 8 nothing happend...

[arnezami]

This one will spit out more debug info for me to figure out what is going on here.

fetchvid v0.2.8 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/7p3xbv)

Also try the default setting: so simply "fetchvid i"

Btw: what AGID does aacskeys give with this drive and disc?

arnezami

[mrazzido]

aacskeys says AGID : 01

i test yet new version..

[mrazzido]

whahh got an driver error in my system , powerdvd/windvd doesnt regonize BD drive anymore , its a Catalyst problem . i installed some minutes ago omega drivers. which is the best driver for Powerdvd.

i read some times other ppls had the same problem with newer driver of Catalyst

[PepsiLee2001]

aacskeys says AGID : 01

i test yet new version..


E:\fetchvid>fetchvid.exe f
fetchvid v0.2.8

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGIDs usage: 2 3 -1 -1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.



E:\fetchvid>fetchvid.exe f 12000 1
fetchvid v0.2.8

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 12000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGIDs usage: 2 3 -1 -1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.



E:\fetchvid>fetchvid.exe f 12000 0
fetchvid v0.2.8

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 12000 ms
Wait until access moment: 0
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGIDs usage: 2 3 -1 -1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.

[arnezami]

Ok. It looks like your drive is always using AGID 1 for AACS-Auth.

So I changed fetchvid to only try this AGID for volume id retrieval.

It also seems to be detecting the software players' access to the drive. So its possible its working now and it may just have to be tweaked.

Commands to try:

fetchvid f 300

up to

fetchvid f 3000

(eg 300, 500, 700, 1000, 1200, 1400, 1600, 1800 etc)

and

fetchvid f 1000 20 (maybe do this one first)

(to see if it detects the software player stopping to use the drive).

If possible try different software players.

New version:

fetchvid v0.2.9 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/yq9tod)

arnezami

[arnezami]

Ok. New version that hopefully works better with this command

fetchvid f 1000 20

(which should reveal the AGID usage by the player and times like 1000 - 3000ms)

It now releases the AGIDs not used by the player. Still hardcoded to AGID 1.

fetchvid v0.2.10 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/f6k0d7)

arnezami

@mrazzido: did you use a different drive here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=969016#post969016) since (the old) aacskeys showed AGID 00 there.

[mrazzido]

fetchvid i 1000
20
fetchvid v0.2.10

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 20
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGIDs usage: 2 3 -1 -1
AGIDs usage now: 2 2 3 1
Player has stopped using drive: 42078 ms
Player is accessing drive: 2
AGIDs usage: 2 3 -1 -1
AGIDs usage now: 2 3 3 -1
Player has stopped using drive: 43390 ms
Player is accessing drive: 3
AGIDs usage: 2 3 -1 -1
AGIDs usage now: 2 2 3 1
Player has stopped using drive: 31844 ms
Player is accessing drive: 4
AGIDs usage: 2 3 -1 -1
AGIDs usage now: 2 2 3 1
Player has stopped using drive: 29328 ms
Player is accessing drive: 5
AGIDs usage: 2 3 -1 -1

[arnezami]

Hmmm. These drives are doing weird stuff. Possibly a timing issue.

Please test the 300-3000 ms anyway.

[arnezami]

This version uses a different technique. Maybe this will work better:

fetchvid v0.2.11 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/m4yg6n)

arnezami

[mrazzido]

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 300 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
AGID other than 1!: 2
AGID other than 1!: 2
AGID other than 1!: 2
AGID other than 1!: 2
AGID other than 1!: 2

the debug message comes 5 times when i push play on powerdvd6 .

[PepsiLee2001]

This version uses a different technique. Maybe this will work better:
fetchvid v0.2.11 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/m4yg6n)

fetchvid with PowerDVD 7.3

fetchvid v0.2.11

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 3
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
AGID other than 1!: 2
AGID other than 1!: 2
AGID other than 1!: 2
AGID other than 1!: 2
AGID other than 1!: 2
AGID other than 1!: 2
.
.
.
loop
.
.
.


and powerdvd can't play movie, error message,

The Player cannot suppor this content [Error code = 0020]. Possible reasons are:
1) Your optical driver is revoked. please contact your drive manufacturer
2) Cannot support duplicate of copyrighted disc
3) Cannot support protected content from hard disc (HDD)



fetchvid with WinDVD 8

fetchvid v0.2.11

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 3
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1


fetchvid have no any response, when play windvd, fetchvid show a message "AGID other than 1!: 2" and still waiting. Windvd can't play any thing, It still in idle mode. Play again, fetchvid will show next "AGID other than 1!: 2" message.

[KoD]

Is this the "updated" PowerDVD you are using ?

[PepsiLee2001]

Is this the "updated" PowerDVD you are using ?

No, It has not install any patch.

[arnezami]

Ok. I've now done something quite simple now and it just might work.

Lets see what happens :).

fetchvid v0.2.12 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/sj2lbn)

arnezami

[mrazzido]

fetchvid i

fetchvid v0.2.12

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGIDs usage: 2 2 3 -1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different ti
me setting.

-- Tip: run fetchvid setting a high wait "until access moment"
This will show you the amount of times the drive is accessed
and for how long. Keep in mind when doing this you have
to use Ctrl-C to stop fetchvid... sorry ;). --

So close the software player and start fetchvid with a new wait value.




i used power dvd 6.6 is it better to use a newer version??!

[arnezami]

fetchvid i

fetchvid v0.2.12

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGIDs usage: 2 2 3 -1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different ti
me setting.

-- Tip: run fetchvid setting a high wait "until access moment"
This will show you the amount of times the drive is accessed
and for how long. Keep in mind when doing this you have
to use Ctrl-C to stop fetchvid... sorry ;). --

So close the software player and start fetchvid with a new wait value.




i used power dvd 6.6 is it better to use a newer version??!

I'm not sure. But for now just keep using it.

Since it now seems to detect agid player usage could you run it with a higher waiting number? I would like to know if it recogines the stopping of usage of the agid. And what times (in ms) come out of it.

And besides that changing to 300-3000 ms (with wait value set to 1).

arnezami

PS. For those who are interested: the "2 2 3 -1" is really weird because it means that when asking the drive 4 times for a new agid it gives the agid "2" twice. It shouldn't do that: it should give only unique agid nrs and then (when all agids are given away) start giving errors (-1). But that doesn't happen. Which frankly I don't understand (maybe timing issue but it seems to be too consistent, or some bug in the drive software, or we need to reconnect to the drive between asking for new agids?). Just to clarify: it doesn't give the agid "1" at all because (assumingly) the software player has got that one in use.

[PepsiLee2001]

C:\fetchvid v0.2.12>fetchvid.exe n
fetchvid v0.2.12

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGIDs usage: 2 2 3 -1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.




C:\fetchvid v0.2.12>fetchvid.exe n 1000 2
fetchvid v0.2.12

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 2
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGIDs usage: 2 2 3 -1
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player has stopped using drive: 17281 ms
Player is accessing drive: 2
AGIDs usage: 2 2 3 -1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.




C:\fetchvid v0.2.12>fetchvid.exe n 20000 2
fetchvid v0.2.12

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 20000 ms
Wait until access moment: 2
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGIDs usage: 2 2 3 -1
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player has stopped using drive: 13734 ms
Player is accessing drive: 2
AGIDs usage: 2 2 3 -1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.




C:\fetchvid v0.2.12>fetchvid.exe n 13000 2
fetchvid v0.2.12

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 13000 ms
Wait until access moment: 2
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGIDs usage: 2 2 3 -1
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player has stopped using drive: 12922 ms
Player is accessing drive: 2
AGIDs usage: 2 2 3 -1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.




C:\fetchvid v0.2.12>fetchvid.exe n 13000
fetchvid v0.2.12

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 13000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGIDs usage: 2 2 3 -1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.




C:\fetchvid v0.2.12>fetchvid.exe n 3000
fetchvid v0.2.12

Looks like a Bluray disc
AGIDs available: 1 2 3 -1
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 3000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGIDs usage now: 1 2 3 -1
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGIDs usage: 2 2 3 -1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.

[arnezami]

OK. I need time to think this through. But things don't seem to add up here :(.

Anyway. Lets go for brute force shall we :D.

Here is KenD00's dumpvid program adapted for bluray:

dumpvid 0.3 (adapted) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/wyqw47)

Screenshot:

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6277/dumpvidhq2.png

Works like a charm for PowerDVD 7.3 (for me when using the HD DVD version) even including the upgrade.

See KenD00's post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=956255#post956255) for more info. Just hit ENTER en then play with PowerDVD.

arnezami

[PepsiLee2001]

OK. I need time to think this through. But things don't seem to add up here :(.

Anyway. Lets go for brute force shall we :D.

Here is KenD00's dumpvid program adapted for bluray:

dumpvid 0.3 (adapted) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/wyqw47)


dumpvid 0.30 + aacskey 0.25

dumpvid 0.30

C:\dumpvid0.30>dumpvid.exe n
DumpVID 0.3 by KenD00 (adapted for bluray testing)

Drive type is recognised as CDROM/DVD.

Sending SPC1 Test Unit CDB6 command..done.
Returned good status.

Press ENTER to start hammering

Hammering drive...
vid: 43F962AFDF015A7A2F01BFB8B29C4C92
Hammering finished.


aacskeys 0.25

C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>aacskeys.exe n s 43F962AFDF015A7A2F01BFB8B29C4C92
aacskeys v0.2.5

Current path: C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5

First C-value: 459DE09775A9E7442416637D03D00552
First u mask nr: 17
First uv: 00000001
Device key: AA856A1BA814AB99FFDEBA6AEFBE1C04
Processing key: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0
Encrypted C-value: 459DE09775A9E7442416637D03D00552
Corresponding uv: 00000001

Decrypted C-value: 0028A88F4F50647D49962E02CFBFA9D7
Media key: 0028A88F4F50647D49962E02CFBFA9D6

Encrypted verification data: EB29317BB8DECA19A8879C6DFDB02D24
Decr verif data should be: 0123456789ABCDEF
Decrypted verification data: 0123456789ABCDEF373026BCC71B62E0

Volume ID: 43F962AFDF015A7A2F01BFB8B29C4C92
Volume Unique Key: 61B6A65446D6F1AF353F5F7AF7E546D6
Unit Key File Hash (DiscID): 2CCC522CE0C26F04F4015FFF9D3EE9D4E80DA43D
Encrypted Unit Key 1: C2FD8516BE84A8CEF789C913A38A0996

Decrypted Unit Key 1: 5F620690A99921E9B7CF4A756E69B8B8

[mrazzido]

i test the tool from kenD00

i got the right volume id...


DumpVID 0.3 by KenD00 (adapted for bluray testing)

Drive type is recognised as CDROM/DVD.

Sending SPC1 Test Unit CDB6 command..done.
Returned good status.

Press ENTER to start hammering

Hammering drive...
vid: 51FAA0C75C515D91429D23C2FF8C4173
Hammering finished.

[arnezami]

Great! :D :D :D

This is good news.

For some reason using the AGID as time marker interferes with both players (using a BD/multi-agid drive). Maybe there is an in between solution. But now we atleast got a way of retrieving Volume IDs from the current version of Power DVD.

For now I will probably concentrate on other stuff and maybe come back to this later when there is more time or need for it.

Much thanks to mrazzido and PepsiLee2001 for all their impressive efforts. :thanks:

Btw: this means we now have a way of retrieving the VID for both HD DVD and Bluray. Meaning we effectively do not need the upcoming HPK anymore. :)

Regards,

arnezami

[Geremia]

good work arnezami

there is always something more exciting than watching movie, right? :)

About the SD-S802A, i've found a (disabled) cdb command that reads any sector in any disc area (system lead-in included) with full 0x10 byte header too :) (header is first 0x10 bytes of the output)

plscsi.exe -v -p -x "08 00 00 ps ps ps" -i x810

where pspsps is the PSN

i've dumped all the "raw" copyright data segment of kingkong (where VolumeID LSB and KCD should be) but it doesn't seems to contain anything. Also the RSV 6byte field in the header is empty.

Reading AACS specs, they say that VID LSB and KCD "shall" be recorded here, but i also read that an AACS compliant standalone player may not use the KCD ...so, maybe we should look for a CopyrightDS of a movie that has full VolumeID (not the one with 00 20 20 20 20 20 ending)?
I've not such a movie, can anyone see how PSN 01E600 and > looks like?

ex:

plscsi.exe -v -p -x "08 00 00 01E600" -i x810

P.S.: the 08 CDB command is disabled by default, you have to enable disabled commands first (like done before for DF command)

[lightshadow]

P.S.: the 08 CDB command is disabled by default, you have to enable disabled commands first (like done before for DF command)
It may seam like a stupid question, but could you provide the entire command ofr unlocking 08? I can't find it for DF.

[awhitehead]

It may seam like a stupid question, but could you provide the entire command ofr unlocking 08? I can't find it for DF.


Enabling DF:
plscsi -v -p -x "1D 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00" -f DFenable.bin -o x8


DFenable.bin is a binary file that contains the following 8 bytes:
88 00 00 04 02 6F 01 00

If you would like to disable DF, you need to create DFdisable.bin:
88 00 00 04 02 6F 00 00
and re-run the above plscsi command with an additional data in DFdisable.bin

HTH.

[Pelican9]

Enabling DF:
plscsi -v -p -x "1D 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00" -f DFenable.bin -o x8


DFenable.bin is a binary file that contains the following 8 bytes:
88 00 00 04 02 6F 01 00

If you would like to disable DF, you need to create DFdisable.bin:
88 00 00 04 02 6F 00 00
and re-run the above plscsi command with an additional data in DFdisable.bin

HTH.


I think lightshadow wants to know how he can enable the 08 command.

[lightshadow]

I think lightshadow wants to know how he can enable the 08 command.
Yes, and also the DF command, so thanks awhitehead for that =)

[awhitehead]

I think lightshadow wants to know how he can enable the 08 command.

I apologize. After reading

P.S.: the 08 CDB command is disabled by default, you have to enable disabled commands first (like done before for DF command)

I was under impression that the technique above enables disabled commands, including both DF and 08.

Once again, I apologize.