DVD Rebuilder undersizing problem

[gizzin]

I encoded the batman s2 d2 with cce 6pass. I only stripped 2audio tracks. So in other words no preprocessing was done on it. The output was 3.88 GB (4,171,577,344 bytes). Heres the log file.6963

[wmansir]

Is that the animated series? From what I recall it's rather dark and fairly low motion, at 4350kbps encoder saturation could be the issue. The basic "Problem" is that encoder reaches maximum quality and doesn't need the extra bits.

ps feel free to paste your log directly into your post. No need to zip and attach it.

[gizzin]

"The batman" is the new animated series. I've never heard of a encoder being over saturated so it can possibly achieve a higher quality but theres always a first.

[22:38:29] One Click encoding activated...
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[22:38:29] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.23.1
- AVISYNTH 2.5.6.0
- CCE 2.70.2.6 encoder selected.
- Source: BATMAN_COMPLETE_S2_D2
- VTS_01: 2,294,713 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 151,707 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 46,161 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 4,233 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 76,030 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 7,763 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_06: 269,318 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 27,533 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 87.2%
- Overall Bitrate : 5,437/4,350Kbs
- Space for Video : 4,235,180KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,642/3,182/4,350 Kbs
[22:41:49] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 3 minutes.
[22:41:49] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4
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- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_05 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 2
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- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 10
[01:45:48] Phase II ENCODING completed in 184 minutes.
[01:45:49] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
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- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_13
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Processing VTS_02
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
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- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_02_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Processing VTS_05
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_05_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Processing VTS_06
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
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- Rebuilding seg 9 VOBID 10 CELLID 1
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- Rebuilding seg 10 VOBID 11 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_11
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_06_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Correcting VTS Sectors...
- Building ISO Image...
- ISO Image successfully created.
[02:01:38] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 16 minutes.

Done.
[02:01:38] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 203 min.Edit: I added code brackets around the log text to make it a little easier to view. [jdobbs]

[jdobbs]

At those bitrates it is very probable that the sizing it due to encoder saturation (as wmansir mentioned). That's a good thing, though... because it means that the encoder has gotten as good a picture as it can get -- and can't enlarge the output.

You could probably get it to fit the output better (but not necessarily improve the picture) by adding this line to the "[Options]" area of your REBUILDER.INI file:

CCEAQM=1