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tetsuo55
16th March 2007, 10:47
drevil_xxl :

About MPC, if you can/want/are able to could you fix the bug with the DVD navigator, where mouse position doesnt equal menu position, sometimes the mouse has to be all the way on the other side of the screen to click a meny button.

My second request would be to add HDDVD/Bluray support, with menu navigation. This will require VC1, MPEG2 and h264 decoding.

Leak
16th March 2007, 11:00
About MPC, if you can/want/are able to could you fix the bug with the DVD navigator, where mouse position doesnt equal menu position, sometimes the mouse has to be all the way on the other side of the screen to click a meny button.
Strange - that works fine for me...

If you are using ffdshow to resize the image - be sure to drag the subtitle filter above the resize filter in ffdshow's filter list.

fastplayer
16th March 2007, 11:13
About MPC, if you can/want/are able to could you fix the bug with the DVD navigator, where mouse position doesnt equal menu position, sometimes the mouse has to be all the way on the other side of the screen to click a meny button.
Confirmed. That's the only thing about MPC that annoys me. I don't know if the "DVD Navigator" is part of MPC or Windows (qdvd.dll) though...

Leak
16th March 2007, 11:45
Confirmed. That's the only thing about MPC that annoys me. I don't know if the "DVD Navigator" is part of MPC or Windows (qdvd.dll) though...
Errr... "DVD Navigator" is part of Windows, i.e. DirectShow.

But are you actually using ffdshow for DVD decoding? If so, just activate the "Subtitles" filter (and make sure it comes before resizing the image) and the subs/menus should be spot on - at least they are for me... :confused:

tetsuo55
16th March 2007, 12:09
Player = MPC latest compile by xxl
Codec = Dscaler 5 (same problem occurs with other decoders)
audio = AC3filter


It doesn't matter if FFdshow is used or not, but i usually do use FFdshow for resizing.

It doesn't happen in all DVD's but in most

Leak
16th March 2007, 12:57
Player = MPC latest compile by xxl
Codec = Dscaler 5 (same problem occurs with other decoders)
audio = AC3filter

It doesn't matter if FFdshow is used or not, but i usually do use FFdshow for resizing.
Well, it *does* matter if you use ffdshow for actually decoding the DVD and displaying the subtitles or not.

Try going to ffdshow's codecs page, change "MPEG2" to "libmpeg2", check "DVD Decoding" below the codec list. Check "Subtitles" (and "Resizing" if you want) in the filter list and drag "Subtitles" above "Resizing".

If *then* the subtitles are still off, there's a bug in ffdshow. If not you'll have to ask whoever *is* displaying the DVD subtitles (which *isn't* ffdshow in that case) to fix the bug. But of course, if you're scaling the image and then ask any filter to overlay 720x480 subtitles on top it's kinda guesswork to get them positioned correctly - you really need to put the subtitles on the image *before* scaling.

fastplayer
16th March 2007, 12:57
But are you actually using ffdshow for DVD decoding?
Not at all. It doesn't happen when using WMP + gabest's MPEG2 decoder, so it has to be something wrong with MPC...

Leak
16th March 2007, 12:58
Not at all. It doesn't happen when using WMP + gabest's MPEG2 decoder, so it has to be something wrong with MPC...
So, if you don't mind me asking - why are you asking this in the *ffdshow tryouts* thread then? :confused:

tetsuo55
16th March 2007, 13:30
I am not talking about subtitles, but about menu highlighting in DVD's.

I mentioned it because xxl is working on mpc well sort of..

Leak
16th March 2007, 13:45
I am not talking about subtitles, but about menu highlighting in DVD's.
Well, the menu highlighting on DVDs is done through subtitles, so it's one and the same - either both subtitles and menu highlights are wrong or they're both correct, as they're both handled by the same hard- or software.

I mentioned it because xxl is working on mpc well sort of..
How about opening a new thread for this? After all, both ffdshow and MPC do DVD decoding and DVD subtitles and talking about both in a single thread is just going to confuse things...

Also, why don't you give ffdshow's DVD decoding a try? It might even place the subtitles/highlights correctly if you do it as I wrote above...

foxyshadis
16th March 2007, 14:20
Split from ffdshow tryouts. (Not sure if it's an actual fixable "bug", but I put it in the title anyway.)

tetsuo55
16th March 2007, 14:46
Ill test what you just said leak,

thanks for splitting.

Dscaler5 is the best mpeg2 decoder currently (based on pure image quality and speed)

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Okay i tested what you said Leak.

The problem remains, problem dvd's still cannot be navigated correctly (same dvd works fine in powerdvd and wmp)

Example: The Dark Crystal Superbit

Ps foxyshadis, the bug has nothing to do with resizing, it occurs regardless of size and if your do or don't use ffdshow.

wozio
26th March 2007, 10:36
HI,

I have the same problem. It occurs when dscaler5 is connected directly to VMR9 in renderless mode (I think problem vanishes when VMR9 is in other modes and also in VMR7 and overlay).

After some digging it seems that animated menu are displayed correctly while static ones are not. It looks like image isn't refreshed when menu selection is changed (no new frame sent?).

In cyberlink's decoder everything works fine.

But I don't think this is MPC problem anyway since in my own app it behavies exactly the same.

Regards