autogk, audio out of sync (used ripit4me)

[FishTank]

first off, i use Ripit4me -> autoGK :)

ive done 5 rips so far and all were great, but yesterday i tried to
do "the negotiator" and the audio was 5 seconds ahead of the
picture.
today i tried revenge of the warrior and its the same thing. im a little worried
now if i messed something up. i know i didnt change anything though :( (1 click in ripit4me and default settings in autogk).

heres the log of the 2nd one (deleted the first one :/)


[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] AutoGK 2.40
[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] Job started.
[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] Input file: C:\REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR\VTS_01_0.IFO
[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] Output file: C:\Stuff\REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR.avi
[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] Output codec: XviD
[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] Audio 1: Deutsch AC3 6ch
[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] Subtitles: none
[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] Format: AVI
[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] Target size: 700Mb
[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] Started encoding.
[3/15/2007 10:01:57 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/15/2007 10:05:19 AM] Processing file: C:\REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/15/2007 10:05:19 AM] Processing file: C:\REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/15/2007 10:05:19 AM] Processing file: C:\REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR\VTS_01_3.VOB
[3/15/2007 10:05:19 AM] Processing file: C:\REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR\VTS_01_4.VOB
[3/15/2007 10:05:19 AM] Processing file: C:\REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR\VTS_01_5.VOB
[3/15/2007 10:05:19 AM] Processing file: C:\REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR\VTS_01_6.VOB
[3/15/2007 10:05:19 AM] Source resolution: 720x576
[3/15/2007 10:05:19 AM] Found PAL source.
[3/15/2007 10:05:19 AM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[3/15/2007 10:05:19 AM] Color correction enabled.
[3/15/2007 10:05:19 AM] Analyzing source.
[3/15/2007 10:08:40 AM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0.00
[3/15/2007 10:08:40 AM] Source is considered to be progressive.
[3/15/2007 10:08:40 AM] Output will contain 129829 frames
[3/15/2007 10:08:40 AM] Decoding audio.
[3/15/2007 10:11:18 AM] Normalizing audio.
[3/15/2007 10:12:50 AM] Encoding audio.
[3/15/2007 10:23:53 AM] Audio1 size: 75,388,176 bytes (71.90 Mb)
[3/15/2007 10:23:53 AM] Overhead: 5,193,216 bytes (4.95 Mb)
[3/15/2007 10:23:53 AM] Video size: 653,421,808 bytes (623.15 Mb)
[3/15/2007 10:23:53 AM] Running compressibility test.
[3/15/2007 10:23:53 AM] Writing the following script to C:\Stuff\agk_tmp\REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\Stuff\agk_tmp\REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[3/15/2007 10:28:21 AM] Duration was: 4 minutes 27 seconds
[3/15/2007 10:28:21 AM] Speed was: 24.29 fps.
[3/15/2007 10:28:21 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 36.37
[3/15/2007 10:28:21 AM] Using softer resizer.
[3/15/2007 10:28:21 AM] Chosen resolution is: 528x288 ( AR: 1.83 )
[3/15/2007 10:28:21 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 55.89%
[3/15/2007 10:28:21 AM] Running first pass.
[3/15/2007 10:28:21 AM] Writing the following script to C:\Stuff\agk_tmp\REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\Stuff\agk_tmp\REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 528
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false)
===========================================================
[3/15/2007 11:07:58 AM] Duration was: 39 minutes 37 seconds
[3/15/2007 11:07:58 AM] Speed was: 54.61 fps.
[3/15/2007 11:07:58 AM] Expected quality of first pass size: 58.79%
[3/15/2007 11:07:58 AM] Running second pass.
[3/15/2007 12:07:07 PM] Duration was: 59 minutes 8 seconds
[3/15/2007 12:07:07 PM] Speed was: 36.59 fps.
[3/15/2007 12:07:07 PM] Job finished. Total time: 2 hours 5 minutes 10 seconds


do you guys see something out of the ordinary here? or is this
just a fluke..

furthermore in the autogk_tmp folder theres this file:
REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
which indicates to me that the tools picked up the delay, but
for some reason didnt fix it or wrongly.

any advice appreciated :)

oh if you need more info, just say so..

[BigDid]

first off, i use Ripit4me -> autoGK :)
...
1 click in ripit4me and default settings in autogk
Hi,

Could you give RI4M version and indicate if you also checked "Always run FixVTS on full DVD" ?


heres the log of the 2nd one (deleted the first one :/)
The log is fine, so you finally got AGK working without problem :)


furthermore in the autogk_tmp folder theres this file:
REVENGE_OF_THE_WARRIOR T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
which indicates to me that the tools picked up the delay, but
for some reason didnt fix it or wrongly.
Nothing wrong with the delay (0ms).
It may be just one of (very rare) problematic Movies RI4M coughs on, or not protected.

If so (not protected) you could try "old ways":
1/ Use DvdDecrypter in IFO mode for movie not protected and having no audio synch problem or
2/ DvdShrink in Reauthor mode for movie not protected but having audio synch problems

3/ ... Another possibility would be to give last RI4M beta (1.7.1.0 beta1) a try cause they are testing the n° 2/ solution right now: http://www.ripit4me.org/changelog.html

If not familiar with these programs or modes, come back here but there are lots of guides for both :)

Did

[FishTank]

thanks for the reply :)

Ripit4me is version 1.6.9.0

what puzzles me is that i made 5 rips, all perfect.
now its messed up for some reason.
i tried a capture (mjpeg) and its also out of sync, so its
auto-gk and not the ripping (as there aint no ripping here lol)

i think im gonna try and reinstall it tomorrow and have another
go. its an awesome tool IF it works :(

[setarip_old]

Hi!

If uninstalling and then reinstalling AutoGK doesn't eliminate the problem, you might want to perform a "System Restore"...

[FishTank]

lol, cheers for the idea, but system restore is the first thing i disable
when installing xp. :p

[Mtz]

Also I have some problems with episodic discs. Tryed to rip the DVD in various modes and always I had delay problems. Tired after all, I adjusted the desync manually in virtualdubmod.

enjoy,
Mtz

[FishTank]

well after re-installing it, the mjpeg -> xvid was in sync, but the
vob -> xvid still wasnt. same thing, audio 5 seconds ahead of
the picture.
im burning a backup dvd from dvdshrink right now. if thats in sync, then
the ripping on that one was ok, hence agk is not as good as i thought lol.

edit: yep, the dvd is fine, so the .vob is fine. ripit4me did the job, but agk messes up. :/
the audio was ~8000ms ahead of the video for the entire movie.

[FishTank]

yes, FixVTS did run everytime.
keep in mind, that i encoded captured vids aswell as vobs, so
the ripping process is fine, the problem is 100% within agk.

ive encoded the same vid 5 times. 2 were ok, 3 out of snyc.
auto-gk, while being a great tool, is like flipping a coin when it
comes to sound being out of sync.
at least on my end, that is.

[Lester Burnham]

yes, FixVTS did run everytime.
keep in mind, that i encoded captured vids aswell as vobs, so
the ripping process is fine, the problem is 100% within agk.

ive encoded the same vid 5 times. 2 were ok, 3 out of snyc.
auto-gk, while being a great tool, is like flipping a coin when it
comes to sound being out of sync.
at least on my end, that is.

Must just be you / your video source(s) then...

I've never had such a problem with problematic audio / video sync with AutoGK <shrug>

[FishTank]

be happy then :)

it IS an awesome tool when it works lol.

[xxxyzzzz]

Occasionally I do get a movie that has the audio/video out of sync when I encode it with AutoGK after I use RI4M. My solution is this (I know it has been said above):

Open the ripped and cleaned (after using RI4M) sources with DVD Shrink, and reauthor the movie with no compression. This has solved it every time.

I do not know the entirety of the DVD structure, and I have thought that the structure is still a little warped if the DVD has one of the newer copy "protections" and is cleaned with RI4M. RI4M has come a long way, and I rarely get this anymore, though.

AutoGK and RipIt4Me are two of my favorite apps.

Z

[singularity989]

This also may be an issue with DGIndex reporting an incorrect delay due to garbage at the beginning of the first VOB, since AutoGK uses DGIndex. When you get to the step where DGIndex is running, click on DGIndex and hit ESC to stop it. then follow the steps as outlined in this discusssion (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121537).

Then save the DGIndex project and AutoGK will resume from where it left off, hopefully with a correct audio synch.

[bourtzovlakas]

Use RipIt4Me in "Movie Only" mode...

[FishTank]

sorry guys, my dsl was down a few days.

i did another 10 movies and they all were fine. the only thing i do
different now is always use a constant audio bitrate of 128.
dont know if that has anything to do with it (i doubt it).

thanks for the thoughts though :)

[laserfan]

the only thing i do
different now is always use a constant audio bitrate of 128.
dont know if that has anything to do with it (i doubt it).Depends on your playback method--it could absolutely be the cause.

AGK for some reason defaults to VBR audio, which my media players hate. I always use CBR, and convert-to-CBR if I accidentally make a VBR audiotrack.

[kwanbis]

I'm having a similar problem. On my ThinkPad, i have used AutoGK to rip some Lost chapters, and i have encoded them to english. It went perfect.

Then i installed on another machine, (new/fres install of windows XP), AutoGK, DVDdecrypter.

Downloaded all the DVDs to the HD (with DVDdecrypter), and tried to use AutoGK.

The audio is like 2/3 secs ahead of the video, and it looks terrible weird.

Any ideas?

edit: on both cases, i used defaults (now i'm trying with CBR)

[kwanbis]

Ok, i left the machine trying some options:

First, and just in case, i worked directly from the DVD, using DVD43.

1) 350 MB + AUTO
2) 350 MB + CBR 128
3) 370 MB + AUTO
4) 370 MB + CBR128

all suffer from the same problem.

Here are the logs:

1)350/A
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] AutoGK 2.40
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] Job started.
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] Input file: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] Output file: c:\350.avi
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] Output codec: XviD
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 6ch
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] Format: AVI
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] Target size: 350Mb
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] Started encoding.
[3/28/2007 8:49:36 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/28/2007 8:55:12 PM] Processing file: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/28/2007 8:55:12 PM] Processing file: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/28/2007 8:55:12 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/28/2007 8:55:12 PM] Found NTSC source.
[3/28/2007 8:55:12 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[3/28/2007 8:55:12 PM] Color correction enabled.
[3/28/2007 8:55:12 PM] Analyzing source.
[3/28/2007 8:57:51 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 39.05
[3/28/2007 8:57:51 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 99.60
[3/28/2007 8:57:51 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 0.40
[3/28/2007 8:57:51 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 0.00
[3/28/2007 8:57:51 PM] Source is considered to be FILM.
[3/28/2007 8:57:51 PM] Output will contain 62296 frames
[3/28/2007 8:57:51 PM] Decoding audio.
[3/28/2007 8:59:07 PM] Normalizing audio.
[3/28/2007 8:59:38 PM] Encoding audio.
[3/28/2007 9:05:34 PM] Audio1 size: 35,446,248 bytes (33.80 Mb)
[3/28/2007 9:05:34 PM] Overhead: 2,491,904 bytes (2.38 Mb)
[3/28/2007 9:05:34 PM] Video size: 329,063,448 bytes (313.82 Mb)
[3/28/2007 9:05:34 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/28/2007 9:05:34 PM] Writing the following script to c:\agk_tmp\350_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("c:\agk_tmp\350.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[3/28/2007 9:08:42 PM] Duration was: 3 minutes 7 seconds
[3/28/2007 9:08:42 PM] Speed was: 16.58 fps.
[3/28/2007 9:08:43 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 89.86
[3/28/2007 9:08:43 PM] Chosen resolution is: 720x416 ( AR: 1.73 )
[3/28/2007 9:08:43 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 70.66%
[3/28/2007 9:08:43 PM] Running first pass.
[3/28/2007 9:08:43 PM] Writing the following script to c:\agk_tmp\350_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("c:\agk_tmp\350.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 720
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false)
===========================================================
[3/28/2007 9:37:08 PM] Duration was: 28 minutes 25 seconds
[3/28/2007 9:37:08 PM] Speed was: 36.52 fps.
[3/28/2007 9:37:09 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 78.38%
[3/28/2007 9:37:09 PM] Running second pass.
[3/28/2007 10:17:47 PM] Duration was: 40 minutes 37 seconds
[3/28/2007 10:17:47 PM] Speed was: 25.55 fps.
[3/28/2007 10:17:47 PM] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 28 minutes 11 seconds


2) 350/C
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] AutoGK 2.40
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] Job started.
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] Input file: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] Output file: C:\350_cbr.avi
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] Output codec: XviD
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 6ch
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] Format: AVI
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] Target size: 350Mb
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] Audio 1 settings: CBR MP3 with bitrate: 128Kbps
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] Started encoding.
[3/28/2007 10:17:48 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/28/2007 10:21:56 PM] Processing file: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/28/2007 10:21:56 PM] Processing file: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/28/2007 10:21:56 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/28/2007 10:21:56 PM] Found NTSC source.
[3/28/2007 10:21:56 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[3/28/2007 10:21:56 PM] Color correction enabled.
[3/28/2007 10:21:56 PM] Analyzing source.
[3/28/2007 10:24:49 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 39.05
[3/28/2007 10:24:49 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 99.60
[3/28/2007 10:24:49 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 0.40
[3/28/2007 10:24:49 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 0.00
[3/28/2007 10:24:49 PM] Source is considered to be FILM.
[3/28/2007 10:24:49 PM] Output will contain 62296 frames
[3/28/2007 10:24:49 PM] Decoding audio.
[3/28/2007 10:26:05 PM] Normalizing audio.
[3/28/2007 10:26:28 PM] Encoding audio.
[3/28/2007 10:33:05 PM] Audio1 size: 41,556,096 bytes (39.63 Mb)
[3/28/2007 10:33:05 PM] Overhead: 739,712 bytes (0.71 Mb)
[3/28/2007 10:33:05 PM] Video size: 324,705,792 bytes (309.66 Mb)
[3/28/2007 10:33:05 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/28/2007 10:33:05 PM] Writing the following script to C:\agk_tmp\350_cbr_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\agk_tmp\350_cbr.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[3/28/2007 10:36:12 PM] Duration was: 3 minutes 6 seconds
[3/28/2007 10:36:12 PM] Speed was: 16.70 fps.
[3/28/2007 10:36:12 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 88.67
[3/28/2007 10:36:12 PM] Chosen resolution is: 704x416 ( AR: 1.69 )
[3/28/2007 10:36:12 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 71.31%
[3/28/2007 10:36:12 PM] Running first pass.
[3/28/2007 10:36:12 PM] Writing the following script to C:\agk_tmp\350_cbr_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\agk_tmp\350_cbr.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false)
===========================================================
[3/28/2007 11:06:01 PM] Duration was: 29 minutes 49 seconds
[3/28/2007 11:06:01 PM] Speed was: 34.81 fps.
[3/28/2007 11:06:02 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 80.28%
[3/28/2007 11:06:02 PM] Running second pass.
[3/28/2007 11:46:57 PM] Duration was: 40 minutes 55 seconds
[3/28/2007 11:46:57 PM] Speed was: 25.37 fps.
[3/28/2007 11:46:57 PM] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 29 minutes 9 seconds

don't think there is any need for the 370 logs.

Any ideas?

[kwanbis]

Try again, turn off DVD43, rip using ripit4me, process fully, and let it run fixvts, then post back your findings.
I seen that.

But the problem does not appears to be the way the DVDs are ripped.

I can play the ripped files OK on my hard drive.

I have tested with DVD Decrypter and DVD43.

I can try ripitforme but i don't think it would make any diference.

On my thinkpad, i used both, DVD Decrypter and DVD43, and it worked.

[kwanbis]

It nearly always is.

Listen: rather than posturing that you don't believe it to be the method you're using for ripping, take it on faith that it might be, or perhaps is likely to be, and rip it again, with ripit4me, do the conversion, and post back here your results.

So once again, rip your DVD again and use ripit4me (ensure you are using the latest version, and that fully processes the output, and then runs fixvts (now internal to ripit4me)). Do your conversion, and then report back to the thread with your findings.

If it solves your problems, it will likely confirm what is likely the most common cause of audio sync issues. If not, it will allow the problem to be progressed
I didn't sayd i won't do it, in fact, i was while you wrote.

Also, i'm processing a rip from the other machine on my TP, just in case.

About the VTSfix, you mean the lat step that ripit4me shows as optional? Cause i runned all steps it asked me, either optional or not.

Thanks again.

[kwanbis]

update:

the ripped files on the new machine on my machine don't work either.

the ripped with ripit4me files, on the new machine, get unsynchronized on the new machine also.

i would try ripping on my thinkpad, and trying to encode on both machines

[kwanbis]

ok, bad news (for me)

the files ripped on my ThinkPad, using DVD Decrypter, now don't work either, they suffer from syncrho problem.

i don't know what to do :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((

[BigDid]

ok, bad news (for me)

the files ripped on my ThinkPad, using DVD Decrypter, now don't work either, they suffer from syncrho problem.

Hi,

That may be bad news for you, but it may just reveal your sources have a strong and recent protection for which Ripit4me is needed.

As procedure was already given, you may want to try ripping from originals DVD with (from my 1st post: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=970945#post970945)
- n° 3 Ripit4me with movie only, 1 click mode and FixVts on all VOBS
or
n° 2 DvdShrink in re-author mode
and
Feed the resulting in AGK without any extra steps.

N° 3 should work for most of protected (or non-protected) movies.
N°2 should work on non-protected ones resisting Ripit4me.
Please try again C A R E F U L L Y before negating.
If still not working post your steps, results and logs to review what's going wrong.

Did

[remiche]

All method not working... :( my dvd not protected :(
i try 2 times to rip, but nothing :(

[kwanbis]

That may be bad news for you, but it may just reveal your sources have a strong and recent protection for which Ripit4me is needed.
I don't really think that is the case. Anyway, how can i be sure?

As procedure was already given, you may want to try ripping from originals DVD
I'm and ripping from my original DVDs. I have tried DVD43, DVDDecrypter and DVD43.


- n° 3 Ripit4me with movie only, 1 click mode and FixVts on all VOBS
I have only tried wizard mode, with all options accepted. Would try 1-click.


n° 2 DvdShrink in re-author mode and Feed the resulting in AGK without any extra steps.
I'm doing that right now the DVDshrink ripped material seems to play fine on my hard drive, i would what happens when AGK finishes.

Please try again C A R E F U L L Y before negating.
I never negated. What i have, is asked questions many times, for example, i don't get why, if i can play fine something ripped to my hard drive, why would AGK have problems.


If still not working post your steps, results and logs to review what's going wrong.
Thanks, i would.

[kwanbis]

By the way, one thing i realized, is that i was never able to get it synchronized, not even the first time (i thought at first i got it fine once).

[bourtzovlakas]

Use RipIt4Me in "Movie Only" mode...

[kwanbis]

DVDshrink in reauthor mode+AutoGK, seems to be working fine now ... i would try to set the target to 370 MB now, just to confirm, and try a feu other DVDs. And let you know.

[kwanbis]

ok, DVDshrink in reauthor mode+AutoGK is working perfectly. Thanks for the help.

[kenuto]

when I use the AC3 6ch option as audio track which is as 5.1 dolby most of the time when i check it out before butning it's out of synch, when i use the AC3 2ch normally i have no problem. This is really bugging me! Can someone please help me

[BigDid]

when I use the AC3 6ch option as audio track which is as 5.1 dolby most of the time when i check it out before butning it's out of synch, when i use the AC3 2ch normally i have no problem. This is really bugging me! Can someone please help me
Hi and welcome to the forum,

Please post logfiles (copy/paste) preferably same movie 2 logs, 1 for 6ch, the other for 2ch. :thanks:

Did

[kenuto]

Hi and welcome to the forum,

Please post logfiles (copy/paste) preferably same movie 2 logs, 1 for 6ch, the other for 2ch. :thanks:

Did

I'm actually rather new at this so do not know what you exactly mean.I do wish some help though. By the way, the out of synch also happend when i tried the ac3 2ch mode. So what happens is that the sound goes synch with subtitles but the movie isn't. please help:stupid:

[BigDid]

I'm actually rather new at this so do not know what you exactly mean.I do wish some help though...
Hi,

Better tell us what you can and cannot do :confused:

I assume you know in which directory AutoGK works; if so in that directory you should find a file named xxx_agk.log (xxx goes for the name of the movie)

Open that file with the note pad and copy/paste the content in your next post here. Do that for the same movie, with audio 2ch and also for audio 6ch or
same movie 1 log with whatever params in synch and 1 other log with whatever params not in synch (subtitles?...)

No need to do that on the full movie source if you know the results, you could point AutoGK to the last Vob in the working directory instad of the .ifo

If you feel I speak chinese (or swahili) we have a comprehension problem :) , we (doom9 users and you) will have to work on it.

Did

[kenuto]

Hi,

Better tell us what you can and cannot do :confused:

I assume you know in which directory AutoGK works; if so in that directory you should find a file named xxx_agk.log (xxx goes for the name of the movie)

Open that file with the note pad and copy/paste the content in your next post here. Do that for the same movie, with audio 2ch and also for audio 6ch or
same movie 1 log with whatever params in synch and 1 other log with whatever params not in synch (subtitles?...)

No need to do that on the full movie source if you know the results, you could point AutoGK to the last Vob in the working directory instad of the .ifo

If you feel I speak chinese (or swahili) we have a comprehension problem :) , we (doom9 users and you) will have to work on it.

Did


Ok, here I've got what I assume is needed to help:
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] AutoGK 2.40
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] Job started.
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] Input file: C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] Output file: C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\kenneth.avi
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] Output codec: XviD
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] Audio 1: English AC3 6ch
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] Subtitles: none
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] Format: AVI
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] Target size: 1400Mb
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] Standalone support enabled: MTK/Sigma
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] Started encoding.
[13/04/2007 17:30:30] Demuxing and indexing.
[13/04/2007 17:34:57] Processing file: C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
[13/04/2007 17:34:57] Processing file: C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
[13/04/2007 17:34:57] Processing file: C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
[13/04/2007 17:34:57] Processing file: C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
[13/04/2007 17:34:57] Processing file: C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.VOB
[13/04/2007 17:34:57] Source resolution: 720x576
[13/04/2007 17:34:57] Found PAL source.
[13/04/2007 17:34:57] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[13/04/2007 17:34:57] Color correction enabled.
[13/04/2007 17:34:57] Analyzing source.
[13/04/2007 17:46:23] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[13/04/2007 17:46:23] Source is considered to be progressive.
[13/04/2007 17:46:23] Output will contain 220166 frames
[13/04/2007 17:46:24] Audio1 size: 422,103,552 bytes (402.55 Mb)
[13/04/2007 17:46:24] Overhead: 1,467,776 bytes (1.40 Mb)
[13/04/2007 17:46:24] Video size: 1,044,435,072 bytes (996.05 Mb)
[13/04/2007 17:46:24] Running compressibility test.
[13/04/2007 17:46:24] Writing the following script to C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\kenneth_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\kenneth.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[13/04/2007 18:03:52] Duration was: 17 minutes 27 seconds
[13/04/2007 18:03:52] Speed was: 10,51 fps.
[13/04/2007 18:03:53] Compressibility percentage is: 31,29
[13/04/2007 18:03:53] Using softer matrix.
[13/04/2007 18:03:53] Using softer resizer.
[13/04/2007 18:03:53] Chosen resolution is: 608x352 ( AR: 1,73 )
[13/04/2007 18:03:53] Predicted comptest value is: 56,88%
[13/04/2007 18:03:53] Running first pass.
[13/04/2007 18:03:53] Writing the following script to C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\kenneth_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\ColorMatrix.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\ARCHIV~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrain.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\kenneth.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 608
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
ColorMatrix("Rec.709->Rec.601",opt=0,hints=false)
===========================================================
[13/04/2007 20:52:18] Duration was: 2 hours 48 minutes 25 seconds
[13/04/2007 20:52:19] Speed was: 21,79 fps.
[13/04/2007 20:52:20] Expected quality of first pass size: 58,36%
[13/04/2007 20:52:20] Running second pass.
[14/04/2007 0:40:55] Duration was: 3 hours 48 minutes 34 seconds
[14/04/2007 0:40:55] Speed was: 16,05 fps.
[14/04/2007 0:40:56] Splitting video into: C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\kenneth.cd1.avi
[14/04/2007 0:44:26] Splitting video into: C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\kenneth.cd2.avi
[14/04/2007 0:47:31] Splitting video into: C:\kenneth\VIDEO_TS\kenneth.cd3.avi
[14/04/2007 0:48:33] Job finished. Total time: 7 hours 18 minutes 3 seconds


Do you know what went wrong here?

[BigDid]

Hi,

Thanks for the log . It covers only the 6channels encode, not the 2ch encode ; so if you have time please post the log for the 2ch same movie (unless the issue is solved).
Nothing special in your log except you may have 3 cd with the last having only a few Mb...

I don't know if your DVD source is protected (= having a strong recent DVD protection that cannot be decrypted with older tools) or not and if you have used DvdDecrypter in IFO mode as per the tutorial or another ripping/decrypting tool.
As already stated earlier in this thread for encodes having A/V synch problems:
- If protected use Ripit4me in 1click, movie mode
- If not protected use DvdShrink in re-author mode
and feed the resulting in Autogk.

Let us know if successful.

Did

[kenuto]

Thanks for your reply!

I,ve tried the reauthering already once with another movie and it did not resolve the problem. There seems to be a problem at the website of ripit4me and get this message:
Not Found
The requested URL /download.html was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache/1.3.36 Server at www.ripit4me.org Port 80.

I'll try the reauthering with this movie and hope to get it right. Must say it's quite annoying not knowing what goes wrong, I'll try it first with the ac3 2 channel and will get back here.

[BigDid]

Thanks for your reply!

I,ve tried the reauthering already once with another movie and it did not resolve the problem. There seems to be a problem at the website of ripit4me ...

Hi,

Last news about riptit4me in this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=979422#post979422

Did

[kenuto]

Hi,

Last news about riptit4me in this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=979422#post979422

Did


Did,

I owe you a lot of thanks for taking the time to help me. Know i will just reauther all because that works!!

Thanks a lot

[BigDid]

... Know i will just reauther all because that works!!

Thanks a lot
You are welcome; take the time to surf and read the different threads here in doom9 to gain experience and confidence.

Good luck.

Did

[homermaster]

A pretty long thread for a simple question of audio sync. Every time I have come across this problem it is because there are extra video frames without audio in the original DVD. The rips play fine as long as they are in DVD form because the DVD knows about the video without audio and compensates. When the video and audio are separated from with DGIndex, that information is not included so when the two are muxed together, there is audio skew. I have been able, though not all the time, to fix this with VobBlanker. It seems to be a more rigorous program to clean garbage off of vobs than VTSfix.

If that hasn't fixed the problem, opening the DVD in DVDShrink and clipping a few seconds off the front of the movie has always fixed this problem for me.

Of course there may still be something else going on and you can always open the encoded movie in VirtualDubMod, open the drop down menu Streams and choose Stream list, right click on the audio stream and choose interleaving, and adjust the audio skew manually.

[BigDid]

... I have been able, though not all the time, to fix this with VobBlanker. It seems to be a more rigorous program to clean garbage off of vobs than VTSfix.
Hi,

I am not familiar with the Vobblanker procedures, could you share this one?

If that hasn't fixed the problem, opening the DVD in DVDShrink and clipping a few seconds off the front of the movie has always fixed this problem for me.
By clipping do you mean cutting/trimming?

Of course there may still be something else going on and you can always open the encoded movie in VirtualDubMod, open the drop down menu Streams and choose Stream list, right click on the audio stream and choose interleaving, and adjust the audio skew manually.
Yes and it is indicated for an afterward re-synch.

This the GK-AutoGK thread and people posting are often newbies or near newbies. New questions have often already been answered and a search will give all desired answers, but problem is newby posters dont know how to search or it has to be an intelligent search with right key words.
An answer like " already answered, use search with -Autogk audio synch-" is not really user friendly, but you are free to try it and accept acerb returning comments ...

I have done both so (as other older posters here) either I rewrite the same answers over again or I refrain from posting, unless in a bad mood. Is a "use search" answer better than no answer? Up to anyone to decide.

Did

[homermaster]

VobBlanker is just another program which, like VTSfix included with RipIt4Me, cleans the garbage off of the DVD put there to create problems during ripping or encoding. You can download the program as well as read what it does and how it does it at

http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm

Its a great tool that I use often.

I do mean cutting/trimming by clipping. Sorry about the confusion. This is done in DVDShrink by selecting Re-author, double-clicking on the title you want, and clicking on the button with two opposing arrows for setting start/end frames. This will bring up a small box allowing you to trim the start of the movie removing the segment that causes the sync problems. You can also remove the credits at the end of the movie if you wanted to with this method.

I had to look up the word acerb (great word by the way) and I wish I gave answers as often as you do, even if it is simply telling someone to search. I feel it gives more opportunity for continued discussion and growth. I learned about audio sync and other problems and programs by participating in this thread

http://forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-93512.html

It offers yet another solution to fix the problem, but it is done from within AGK with AVS scripting. I would recommend trying to clean the garbage off of the DVD rather than this method. However, it is another guaranteed way of fixing the problem. Woohoo!!

[BigDid]

... I had to look up the word acerb (great word by the way) and I wish I gave answers as often as you do, even if it is simply telling someone to search. I feel it gives more opportunity for continued discussion and growth.
Hi,

A false friend, should have written sour, harsh or acerbic.

I would recommend trying to clean the garbage off of the DVD rather than this method.
Me too. Back on the subject:
VobBlanker is just another program which, like VTSfix included with RipIt4Me, cleans the garbage off of the DVD put there to create problems during ripping or encoding. You can download the program as well as read what it does
I know the program not the procedure to re-synch A/V and have not found it in the guides provided at jsoto website. If too complicated let it down, my curiosity was just for newbies or near-newbies not wanting more than 2 or 3 clicks to solve that problem.

Did

[homermaster]

Sorry about the confusion, again. VobBlanker fixes the sync problems, at least in my experience, by removing the video frames without audio. This is part of what I meant by "cleaning off the garbage" in previous posts.

I have noticed that sometimes VTSfix leaves these video frames without audio and when I run the rip through VobBlanker it will usually get rid of them, allowing the audio and video to start at the same time fixing the audio skew in the encode.

It should be just a few clicks to clean with VobBlanker. Just open the DVD by navigating to the VIDEO_TS.IFO of your rip, I select Use Input Folder under settings for the output, and click on process button and it cleans the rip.

The best way to fix this problem is the recommendation of using DVDShrink to trim a little from the beginning of the movie. Its a tool those using RipIt4Me should already have and it is probably the simplest solution guaranteed to work.

I just wanted to make sure that everyone understood that it is not a problem with RipIt4Me. There was a lot of talk about re-ripping and there is no need for that because it is doing everything it is supposed to.

I believe that these video frames without audio is just another way for Hollywood to mess with our fair use rights by adding garbage to the movies making it harder in this case to encode into other formats. To bad for them there are still so many ways to counteract their efforts.

[geocas1]

I have been trying to fix this same problem with ripit4me, dvdshrink and AUTOGK for a few months now and gave up on the "troubled" rips but the fix of Re-Authoring the movies with cutting a few frames from the start worked like a charm I am finally able to encode the remainder of my library into xvid files The only problem i found was that the subtitles were still out of sync but that was fixed by adding the following line "delay: -00:01:14:00" the time is difference is calculated on the difference of when the talking starts and the subtitles come in. This may be obvious to some but for those who did'nt know it , well...there you have it. Thanks again guys.:thanks: